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When I signed up for Lemmy, I didn't know about some wars that existed between instances, and when I chose lemmy.ml I thought, “Why not?”. Tbh, dont think too much about instances.

I signed up because I wanted to get the full Lemmy experience, but I don't know if some instances block the instance I'm connected , and this is a bit confusing for me. At the beginning, when I joined Lemmy, I remember reading that it is advisable to choose the instance carefully, and I even assume that it was my mistake, but I think it could be a little easier for those who enter the fediverse. I guess. Know nothing at this time.

So, the question is there. Do you judge members by instance? I'm just a normal guy; I don't like the extreme right or extreme communism. In fact, I think all extremism is stupid. But , if you could enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.

At this point, I don't know if I'm blocked by some instances or not. Basically, I want to enjoy having the entire Lemmy experience, where I could read all types of content.

EDIT: during this time, maybe some people judge members because the instance. And I dont like that feel if someone think "oh look this dude, is from lemmy.ml, he is extremist communist, for sure". However, I'm not. Im just a normal guy without any politic side.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I dont care what instance people are from unless they give me a reason to notice. i.e theyre a tankie or some other twat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Here in the States politics is kinda important. Anyone not voting against the Republican party (meaning voting for the next popular guy, typically a Democrat) is consenting to the Republican push toward autocracy and a one-party state.

Most folk are either committed to preserving the democratic features of the US, or are devoted to ushering in the new order. Those in the latter case are aligned with the transnational white power movement or the Christian nationalist movement.

It's a very contentious movement and lives by the millions are at stake with civil war and a mass purge operation both on the table.

If you're in the US, you might want to get informed of what is going on. Those in the movement have little tolerance for centrists or those not loyal to Trump. And those resisting MAGA could use the help.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I spend an hour or so on Lemmy a day and other than the bad bad ones (the ones named to attract predators etc) I have no clue what all the instances are. I see lemmy.ml and assume it's just a lesser used main instance.

So, no judgement from me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was my assumption too. My main account was on lemmy.ml and it was almost three months before I found out the ".ml" part apparently stood for "Marxist-Leninist". This came as a surprise, as I hadn't seen anything in the server espousing that, and Lemmygrad and Hexbear were seemed to attract the lion's share of Leftists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It's also just a cheap domain name. The admins are Communists, but .ml is not an explicit leftist server, just a FOSS and privacy focused server.

The main (to my knowledge) Anarchist community is hosted on .ml.

I like .ml because it's always updated, and on the bleeding edge, plus I like FOSS and Privacy. I'm also a leftist, but not an ML, so it fits me better than lemmygrad or hexbear.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

if you're in one of the "far-left" instances or unmoderated instances that are sources of spam, you're probably gonna get judged, otherwise no. i didn't know lemmy.ml had this reputation and made my account here as well but i don't really mind since i don't have that many issues with moderation here.

"a normal guy without any politic side" is a very political position and i suggest you find an instance that agrees with that position since a very important filter on what you can or can not see is the admins of the instance you are using. i doubt you are missing much on lemmy.ml but you can always try other instances and see which communities they have there that isn't present on lemmy.ml.

as a side note lemmy is, disappointingly, just another digital social media platform but federated. you're still gonna see people fight, throw their opinions at each other and in general talk about politics. a large segment of people on lemmy are either reddit refugees or people that were rejected from other social media. yes on average people here tend to be older and more educated compared to general population that use the internet, but most people here are outside the "norm".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yes and no. I don't judge immediately, but if someone says something sus, and their instance matches the sus vibe, then I judge.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah I made this account first before hopping to one more suited for me. Didnt turn out well there but generall if you're pretty new i imagine most people arent too attached to their instance

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In fact, I think all extremism is stupid.

🤔

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

OP hates snowboarding and mountain biking, confirmed

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't judge people based on their instance. Although, there are a few instances I have just straight up blocked because their users just cause way too many problems.

That said? If someone is being a jerk, I will look at their instance and quite often have a "yeah, that checks out". I don't really have any issues with lemmy.ml but I have definitely noticed a "type" of user. Not bad enough to block the instance but enough that it often counts as two strikes as far as I am concerned. Be a jerk and I see you are from lemmy.ml? Good odds I just block you then and there rather than checking your comment history to see if this is a recurring theme or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which ones did you block? I blocked lemmygrad and hexbear. Helped my blood pressure a lot I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Same. I got brigaded in my first 24 hours because I corrected someone on a RUS/UKR disinfo comment they made. Nearly made me leave. I've blocked both instances in my client but I still occasionally see them pop up for some reason regardless of the alt account I'm on.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

People, myself included, aren't fond of lemmy.ml because it pretends to be a privacy-centric instance but it's actually run by people who defend any and every criticism of Russia and China under the guise of critiquing capitalism.

They commonly say that any bad news about China or Russia is western propaganda while everything from their state-run "news" platforms is gospel.

They're unable to say that two things are true at once, like capitalism is a pure shit system AND China and Russia are fucked for a million reasons specific to them.

People get banned from their server for saying that China is anything but a utopian dream.

And then, yes, people unfairly assume that you must be cool with all that because you're using their instance. If you're not married to the idea of staying there, I'd suggest deleting your account and using a different instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

When I first found about Lemmy I landed on join-lemmy.org, which told me lemmy.ml is big instance ran by the Lemmy developers, so it sounded like the most "default" option.

Now this thread tells me it has some political affiliation and many people judge/block it... How is someone who only found out about Lemmy supposed to know this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Last week I made a comment on some post on the /all page. The post was about china and my comment was fairly china positive, imo. A couple hours later I opened my phone again and my inbox was flooded with weird responses as if I had insulted someone's mother. Turned out it was a post on lemmy.ml. I have the instance blocked now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

On one side you're expected to register to an instance that suits you; like, anime fans in ani.social, people interested in LGBT+ topics in blahaj.zone, so goes on. And there's that common knowledge that, if you feel out-of-place in an instance, you can register to another.

On another, people know that plenty other people don't know (or don't care) about instances. And sometimes you get really clueless posters, specially recent redditfugees.

So yes, you'll be judged by some people. Not by everyone. (Personally I use the user's instance as a heuristic factor on the type of user that I'm dealing with. But on its own it's simply too little info to conclude anything.)

Now, regarding specifically lemmy.ml: I was part of that instance for a few years, so be aware that you might run into problems later on because the admin team there is prone to enforce hidden rules. Still, I don't expect you to be judged based on any "strong" stereotype regarding that instance, as it used to be the flagship instance, so you got plenty "random" users there.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago

lemmy.ml is not just far left, it´s full of fucking tankies. Because of that you might be considered a tankie when using an .ml account. I recommend making an account on a more neutral instance.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Short answer: yes
Long answer: some of us even have entire instances blocked

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Fuk em.

Edit: if people are judging you based off what server you are in, unless it is an openly hostile instance, their opinions are most likely not very valid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

what we forget is that on the internet, none of the opinions around here are relevant to our lives. (but still are valid). the only opinions we need worry about are with the people we form bonds with and create a community. and i guess on a small enough site like this one, you can do that by getting to know people, recognizing others usernames, learning about them as people.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

In your settings you can export a file containing all the communities you have subscribed to. Import that file in the settings of your new account on a new instance and then carry on :)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

why is everyone judging me for the people I choose to associate with?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

All else held equal, I'd guess that someone on a .ml instance -- which is chosen to refer to "Marxism-Leninism" --is more likely to be far left, just as someone on pawb.social is a furry, lemmy.blahaj.zone to be trans, or aussie.zone to be Australian. Does that mean that everyone on all of those instances are any of those? No, of course not.

And lemmy.ml was the second-largest instance during the outflow from Reddit, so a lot of people just grabbed it.

Personally, in choosing an instance, it probably wouldn't be the one I'd choose. I also wouldn't pick it because it's gonna be where the latest release gets put into production first and you're liable to crash into any issues -- lemmy.world admins, for example, are far more conservative, did minimal patching to fix critical bugs rather than jumping right on 0.19, and their userbase avoided crashing into the broken 0.19 releases. On the other hand, if you've established an identity on lemmy.ml and are otherwise happy with it...shrugs

Some instances, like hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml, are far-out-there enough that some instances might defederate with the instance, which I think is probably a bigger concern. I don't think that that's nearly as much a risk with lemmy.ml.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

.ml is the country code for mali and is often used bc it's very cheap

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I know, but the reason that the lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml crowd is using it isn't because of association with Mali.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I signed up for the first one I saw, and subscribed across instances without ever considering that people might care where you came from.

People are going to judge. I try to not to be like people.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I don't judge users like that unless they're from some actually nasty instance. Lemmy.ml is somewhat politically aligned like you said, but it's still generally a "normal" option, with lots of "normal" users.

You can create more accounts elsewhere to see if your experience changes, but I think ml should be okay.

Edit: And I don't think carefully choosing an instance is that important. You can always go elsewhere. Just read the rules and if they seem ok, go for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like the experience im having here on lemmy... I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it. I just want to be the full experience of Lemmy, where i can see all communities and dont get blocked , since I choose lemmy.ml because when I did a sign up, Im pretty noob about fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it.

You and me both.

I don't know know if there's a good tool to list all instances that defederated yours. I often use lemmyverse.net to find new communities instead of relying on built in search. So if something doesn't open, I'd at least know something blocks or is blocked by my instance. Though that hasn't happened yet, probably because this instance is not toxic and also so small that no one even knows about it.

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