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Whenever barrier to entry is discussed for lemmy, and reducing confusion for different servers is brought up, all of the isolationist comments come out of the woodwork.

Apparently redditors who are too dumb to register should stay on reddit?

We have a platform that seems to be working and slowly growing. Shouldnt we want good defaults in place to give the best possible experience with minimal user effort?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I'm a reddit migrant, making a move on as many media platforms as possible away from corpo ones over to more decentralized or open source ones

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

My comments in other threads are not intended to be isolationist, and when I reas others I fear you misconstrue many.

We are not saying "let them stay on Reddit and other corporate media". We are saying "teach them, preach the benefit, and when they want to come, and are ready to come, they will."

That is how you nurture a growing community, vs "make line go up."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

We need to build a space for them to migrate into. Most of what I see on Lemmy is, frankly, whiny. If we want to grow we need to set a better example.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We should make one fully centralized mega instance and contain all the Redditors over there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I thought that's what world was supposed to be

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Personally, I think the big thing is that we need a tool to see who is defederated from who. We don't want some poor sod somehow thinking that since they are leftist that Hexbear or Lemmygrad would be a good place for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Here is a tool to see federated status of instances.

https://defed.xyz/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My only concern is this place is mostly friendly, as with Mastodon, I wouldn’t like that to change.

Having said that, I have never found lemmmygrad or Hexbear that bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I think as long as they don't all come at once, but in a more staggered, September style, then we should be able to handle them with moderation.

Some more people are going to need to volunteer to mod, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah agreed. Who am i cutting out by joining this instance

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Currently, it seems most Lemmy users are very technically inclined, there are a lot of software devs and sysadmins. I certainly don't mind that, but I would love to see a more diverse demographic. I do feel like some people here seem to think that technical knowledge strongly correlates with the ability to have intelligent discussions, which I don't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I’m something of a technophobe. If I can figure it out most should be able to.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Token math/systems-illiterate humanities person here, glad to be of service.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I can talk to computers but not people, we need all kinds here 🥳

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I'm mechanically inclined, worked on cars profesionally for a few years, been in manufacturing for over ten years now. I can research enough to get around a linux terminal, but I learned compuers on apple IIe and commodore 64.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

How dare you assume we are all software devs or sys admins!!
... I am a software dev though hahaha ;p
Jokes aside, i agree. We are all humans and diversity is important so we dont alienate ourselves to the outside world and create echo chambers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How dare you assume we are all software devs or sys admins!!

Yes indeed!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Lol same and you reminded me of this scene from men in black 3: https://youtu.be/GNOZhAc26I8

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

As a sysadmin, I must second the claim that we are surely not all software devs and sysadmins.

...Right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Lemmy is undeniably smaller but it feels a lot more free, like I'm not walking on eggshells when posting here.

On Reddit I have to mince my words on a lot of subs and be careful about using certain words, lest I want Automoderator to effectively shadowban me. Reddit is ruled by tyrannical power mod assholes who likely got slammed into lockers and beaten for their lunch money in high school, and are now using their role as an internet janitor to exert a repressed power fantasy. And don't get me started on the Tintin-looking supreme cuck who owns Reddit Inc either.

Put it this way, Lemmy is a place where you can post about Luigi Mangione, or about the people involved in Elon Musk's DOGE operation without risking a ban.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

Diversity is paramount for social media, otherwise it becomes an echo chamber or worse.

Say what you will about the average redditor, but remember at a certain point they're just the average person.

I mean, love me some Linux nerds and Germans as much as the rest of you but lemmy needs more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, but at the same time all of the worst comments I've seen have been from instances that were mainly linked to from reddit i.e. lemmy.world. Like, rage inducing misinformation. I prefer the much higher quality of discussions on lemmy which I would rarely see on reddit, but it is tiring seeing linux lotr star trek politics be 99.9% of the content / discussions...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In my opinion, everyone who is like "we only want more people who understand the fediverse" are stupid.

How are people supposed to learn and understand the fediverse if they don't try it?

The more people we get off of corporate bullshit, the better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

☝️🤓

Everyone who is like "we only want more people who understand the fediverse" ~~are~~ is stupid.

~~Everyone are stupid~~ ❌

Everyone is stupid ✅

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Do not question my ability to England.

My England is very good quality.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I'll admit that I don't really understand it and I've been here since the start on various accounts over various instances. I don't want to understand it, either.

I never got on with mastodon, nor really any of the other fediverse other than Lemmy. Simply because I never used their corporate counterparts. I also don't really care about other instances within Lemmy. I hate the politics between them. Though I understand why it exists, it makes this place much less enjoyable due to the hostility.

I'm just here to keep me off Reddit because I'd been there so long that it became hard to walk away. Lemmy feeds that addiction, but it doesn't provide the wealth of information that was readily available on modern Reddit. It feels a lot like old Reddit but with less rage comic and animal advice memes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We just need to send them to a neutral instance and teach them the damn rules, especially about switching instances so they can go be in a place that fits their style. I vote Lemm.ee, as I agree with their “Administration, moderation, and federation policy”, and their site wide rules:

  • No abusive language
  • No bigotry
  • No advertising
  • No pornography
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think Lemmy is going to catch on. There's too much friction every step of the way, at least in my experience with it. I still enjoy using Lemmy, but I can see why the majority of people won't end up making the switch

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

What friction is there compared to besides picking an instance that works for the user?

Too often people say "There's too much friction every step of the way" when it's literally 1 extra step. That extra step might be a big pain itself, but don't exaggerate and make it out like there's more steps and pain than there really is

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

But it will eat a share of the pie, which is kind of good for killing Reddit.

A lot of people think that Twitter as an example died overnight, it did not.

Mastodon took a good share of users out of it and then Bluesky came and finished it off.

Giant platforms don't die, they just keep bleading users till they become irrelevant(as Tumblr fer example).

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