Haley endorsement coming in 3....2....1...
These people are spineless, they call Trump the most dangerous thing to democracy in one sentence and then endorse him in the next breathe. They are all so weak.
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Yet she would still pardon Trump for his various crimes and treasons...
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I would even expand that: America is committing suicide by voting Republican.
My state has open primaries and I voted for Haley. Not because I support her but because giving her a boost in the primaries will be a good foil for Trump.
And, if in the small chance she gets the nom, she might actually be easier to beat than Trump. Not holding my breath on that one though.
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Nikki Haley and others like her keep insisting that the 'real' GOP isn't based on Trump politics, when are they are going admit that it's the REAL GOP committing a murder/suicide on America. And the Dems are just the meme of the dog in the room on fire.
And yet they treat the primaries with so little concern that the orange doofus is almost guaranteed to be the gop nominee come November. One half of the gop wants trump in the white house. The other half, it seems, just doesn't care.
Coming Soon: "Nikki Haley endorses tRump"
Haley is just as crazy as trump. Which is why normalizing him by running worse Dem candidates than we normally would is so terrible.
Suddenly people like Haley and Liz Cheney start being called "moderates" because they're halfway between trump and a neoliberals running with a D by their name.
I’m a conservative moderate independent. I very briefly considered Haley because I heard some good things about her. BUT, her views on abortion and pardoning Trump so we can “move on” as a country feel unconscionable to me.
I really don’t like Biden, but I can’t blame him for running for reelection. Incumbent presidents tend to have an advantage with voters. Part of the reason I dislike him is that my ideal candidate, Warren, is unlikely to run in 2028.
And the thing I admired about conservatives is no longer valid. I can respect that you have a different view than I do, and that you stand by your values. Republicans threw away their values and are set to throw away democracy to accomplish their goals.
And the thing is, I would vote for a literal flaming pile of poop over Trump and Biden certainly is better than that, as much as I don’t like him.
Honestly Biden has been pretty great, and the only really liberal thing he's doing is forgiving student debt. That's not that radical or expensive.
He doesn't go far enough, imo, but with this Congress he can't. I'd love to see a top marginal rate of 80% for earnings over 4 million per year.
I'd consider voting for someone slightly worse and younger, but that candidate doesn't exist this year. There's a hell of a lot worse, more loyal to Putin than America, fascist, and still about the same age.
I think this take is pretty bad. You can disagree with Haley and Trump on a lot of pretty core issues, but trying to say they are completely equal is just plain wrong, in my opinion.
If Haley was elected, I'm positive that I wouldn't like the direction of the country at all, and think things would regress. It also encourages Republicans to run the most extreme candidates, because there's no pull to anything rational when all candidates are treated the same.
With Trump, I'm genuinely concerned about our core institutions surviving again.
I don't view Haley as Moderate, but I don't think Trump is on a politicians spectrum. The man is just chaos and ego incarnate.
List three issues where you think Haley is substantially better than trump.
I have a feeling it's the difference between a heart attack while you sleep and a bullet to the brain.
The results are the same, even if the road is a little less bumpy.
Corruption, demeanor, and leadership.
She doesn't have dozens of lawsuits, she's not a loose cannon who will say anything at any moment (I can only imagine how awful Trump is in meetings with foreign leaders, and his lawyers don't even let him speak in court because he'll get himself in even more trouble), and she can get people around her to believe in things more than her own selfish means.
I get that you wanted policies, but things like this are important too. Haley wouldn't be headlining every day with some dumb shit she said on Twitter.
I feel oddly like I'm defending Haley... I'm not. Her border policies suck, she'll seek to pardon Trump if elected, and I don't see her doing shit on gun control either. Economically she'll do the same as Republicans in that she'll grossly underfund programs and then use their underfunding as justification for closing them, and do nothing to help the average person with tax breaks (those are for companies and upper class only).
I hear you in terms of her policies being shit, but calling the worst President in our lifetime the same as a below-average Republican candidate is just equivocating and makes people less likely to hear what you have to say. There's a lot of Republicans who are sick of Trump and do believe he's a threat to Democracy, but when they hear that people think Haley and Trump are the same, it reinforces Trumps worst messages.
So...
Same polices?
She's just more dangerous because of the veneer of civility?
That's kind of what I meant. You have a small shot at seeing a bullet to the head coming. With a heart attack in your sleep you lay down thinking everything is normal and never wake.
Still think it's a good comparison, the result is still the same.
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Then she should run as a third party candidate when she loses the primary.
Lol bet she campaigns for Trump like that fuckin loser Cruz and his dogfaced wife.
Careful, you keep insulting Ted Cruz like that and he's going to be tripping over himself to endorse you for president.
I swear, you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times, and I'm outta here- Sen. Cruz
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Like every Republican that hasn't retired or been voted out of office after criticizing him.
One thing I've learned about modern Republicans - they can't resist the smell of power. Or McDonald's hamberder farts. Not sure which it is.
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