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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not saying that lizard people control the world and that they actively feed upon our misery and create the conditions that make us the least happy, without breaking us so much that we destroy the system imprisoning us in retribution....

But if there were what would they be doing differently?

[–] Somsphet@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is stupid, there will always be crime. These things should be happening simply because that's actually TAKING CARE OF YOU'RE CITIZENS.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Lot of people who turn to crime do so because they don't have any other chance.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lessening crime was never thier objective, it's just a double speak in support of the prison system.

[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Create conditions for "have nots" to be drawn to crime

Arrest them

Have a penal system that utilizes their labor

????

MAGA Paradise

What you people don't understand is that this is the right wing plan to introduce neoslavery with extra steps. As they continue to gut the government and safeguards, they're going to lean HARD into prison labor and detainment camp labor to replace migrant labor and working poor labor.

It's based on their percept that they're superior and the people that end up here are subhuman, so they deserve to be slaves to enhance their supremacy.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

If they get the public to associate LGBT with Sexual Deviancy and Sexual Deviancy with Crimes against children, they can arrest anyone they want for being "Light in the Loafers"

[–] CPMSP@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Brought a tear to my eye, yo.

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 5 points 3 months ago

SHOULD be obvious

[–] xaera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

It's the symptoms tbf

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Arrgh that would be communism, so we can't allow that" - 🤡

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

I mean the first thing the federated mastadon did was ban the socialists to their own little corner. So even "on the left" what you said isn't a joke, it's deeply ingrained dogma.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You lessen crime by eliminating poverty. That part is correct. The other parts of this meme are more like incidental details what could happen when a society is richer, not the cause.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The reason why punishment does not deter crime is because people who commit crimes usually do so because they are out of options, or were not given other options to begin with. So if you increase the severity of the punishment, you are merely making it more stressful for the people to commit the crimes, rather than deterring them.

That's my take. And I don't have a damn criminology degree to come up with that. (Not to say it's necessarily true, but it rings true to me.)

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's my take. And I don't have a damn criminology degree to come up with that. (Not to say it's necessarily true, but it rings true to me.)

It's good that you say that. There are occasions where what seems reasonable, really isn't after investigating the issue.

Regarding crime and punishment: First, I also don't specialize in criminology, but I have read a bunch of scientific papers regarding the effect of severity of punishment on crime rates. From what I've gathered, more severe punishments usually do not reduce crime rates. A prominent example are death sentences, which virtually do nothing to reduce crime rates. Instead, the danger of being caught seems to be more effective.

However, this does of course not encompass the causes of crime, which can be manifold. It's not always stuff like the satifaction of basic needs. Take a look at big companies or rich individuals, who commit tax fraud for example. Or people who murder or harm others out of unstable emotions. Would you say they are out of options?

But I don't know about numbers and associated causes for crime in an average populace. It could be enlightening to take a look at that.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Take a look at big companies or rich individuals, who commit tax fraud for example. Or people who murder or harm others out of unstable emotions. Would you say they are out of options?

Definitely not, that's why I made sure to say "usually", because the number of crimes that require a lot of resources to begin with, and murders who occur due to mental illness are surely outnumbered by crimes that happen out of necessity, I imagine. I'd also like to see statistics on this. (And have the energy to study it, of course.)

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

There is absolutely a direct correlation between crime and poverty.

It's just here in America we don't care about that because crime is business.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Yes, we did (The Netherlands). It really works! But sadly policies are changing, heading more towards the American system with privatization, where the gap between the rich 1% and the rest is increasing rapidly. But at least we're still far away from the current American collapse.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Americans: look north you twits.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Abolish laws. Then crime will instantly disappear. 🥴

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can't commit crime if nothing is a crime. 🙂‍↕️

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Legalize it! 🌿

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago
[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Gun violence goes hand to hand with poverty.

poverty goes up, gun violence goes up

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