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Every day, all day, I have to lie to clients at work and tell them I'm good. I'm far from good and lying about it constantly is killing me.

I'm incredibly lonely and almost everything I usually enjoy feels like a goddamn chore.

Anyone else here feel like that? If so, how do y'all cope?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I hated that question when I worked at jobs where I got yelled at by customers.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

“The horrors persist, but so do I.”

Your issue doesn’t seem to be the greeting itself. Please - talk with someone about your potential depression. Maybe someday you can say honestly “I’m OK.” and it’ll sit better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

"Struggle, endure, contend. For that alone is the sword of one who defies death. "

"Struggle is the bread of life. It is the element that distinguishes the living from the dead"

"No matter how deep the darkness, a light shines within those who fight."

"In times of despair, remember this: the darkest nights produce the brightest stars. Endure, and you will find your path"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't, I rely an ready made sentences that require no effort on my part are that are not lies at all. Depending who's asking when someone is asking me how well I'm I will answer (it's in French)

  • 'Je vais bien, pas le choix!' (I'm doing well, no choice!) or more often 'Je vais toujours bien, c'est défendu d'aller mal!' (I'm always well, It's forbidden to feel bad!'). Edit I will more often than not smile, saying that.
  • 'Bien sur et toi?' (sure, and you?) and, yep, I purposefully do not answer the question.

I don't lie (I may even hint that I may not be doing that well, in the first type of answers) but I also shamelessly use the fact that most people don't give the slightest crap how well I really am when they're asking. That's small-talk 101. Like saying 'the weather is nice today, isn't it?'

The less interactions I have with the kind of persons who rely on small-talk, the happier I'm. So, it never bothers me to be 'polite' as I know how efficient it is to shorten the time and energy I waste with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Curiosity question, is it common where you're from for people to ask how you're doing as a form of greeting? I had always heard it was such an American thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Here in France it's probably the norm the moment it's some other person you vaguely know. Or if there is no 'power' or authority relation involved.

That said, things may be different for younger people (I'm in my 50s) as I've noticed they don't talk that much in person.

Edit: typos. Cooking at the same time I'm trying to post a comment is not the best idea ;)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It is infuriating. I've taken to answering the question more literal. "How" am I? Well, it depends who you ask but the leading scientific consensus is that our known universe began to take shape in what's known as the great expansion. And then...

You gotta make people learn to stop asking you that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

This question is a piece of the small talk death conversation. I don’t feel it should be asked unless you want to know. But that is me. I also loathe small talk, I feel it’s for people who can’t handle silence and thus demand energy from other to full said silence.

Others ask it like it’s the equivalent of “hello”. Saying the truth is like hearing “hello” and then talking about your life. Saying “hello” back is done by saying “fine”.

Where this messes up the human metric is the habitual responding. A provider enters a room in the morning to ask a hospitalized patient how they feel. Instead of responding honestly the patient says “fine”. Provider leaves to move onto the next patient. After the provider is gone for that day the patient realizes their error, or doesn’t understand why the provider disappeared so fast.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Then stop lying about it :

"Hey, how you doin'?"

" Everything's bad, as usual, thanks"

Or

"Just as bad as yesterday, thanks, what about you?"

Or

"... next question?"

If it's a client and can't afford to be awkward, just say say

"Just another day"

And if people ask for more details but you don't want to talk about it, just say :

"Just having a bad day"

Or

"Nothing good happened yet"

Or

"Nothing out of the ordinary"

Or just make up your honest but polite answers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I feel like it would be really interesting to see what would happen if everyone started doing this at once, but as it stands it'd just make things more complicated for yourself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, I actually do this for real 😅

After the second or third time a coworker (or family member) asks me how I'm doing and gets the "just as bad as usual" response, they just laugh and move on 😂

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

You must be a hit at parties.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what your job is but I just either ignore the question immediately moving on, or give a short honest answer. I work at a servo though and that might not work.

Breathing is the answer that gets the best response for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Breathing? Just standing there, breathing, without giving an answer? What does breathing mean here?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 days ago

I'm far from good and lying about it constantly is killing me

I suggest you consider talking to your doctor or a mental health professional. If you feel a long way from ‘good’ some professional assistance might help improve your way.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Personally, I've come to despise the "How're you?" greeting — it feels like it normalizes impersonal interactions and encourages the behavior of masking one's emotions. When someone asks "How are you?" I want that sentence to actually carry the emotional weight that it verbally masquerades. So, if someone says "How are you?", I just respond with a generic greeting like "Hi".

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As others have pointed out, the problem is "How are you?" on its own is generally a greeting not a question.

As such the answer is largely irrelevant - so while it doesn't have to be outright lie, the answer shouldn't be longer than a single statement and shouldn't make the other person feel like they need to be concerned.

If you want a slightly less beaming answer you could go with "Alright", "same old, same old", "same as always", or "Eh, could be worse", or any of the other suggestions already made.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is an anglo, and specifically American tic, and it's so weird.

It took me a few tries and getting some strange looks to get over it. Especially in the US, where sometimes they twist that knife harder and outright go "how was your day?". If you're going to be that specific I'm going to answer about the previous 24 hour period in detail, man, that's just how language works.

We do have a form of "how's it going" used as a generic greeting, but if we say "how are you" it means we're worried and want to know. Mostly it's just variations on "hello", or "good day", and some times a remark on how long it's been since we've seen each other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

It ia very much an English speaking world thing, but I wouldn't say US-centric as we have basically the same greeting in the UK.

Yeah, that wouldn't fly as much here either - if somebody asked how my day was, I'd be inclined to think they want a summary at least.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

"I am enveloped by the cold embrace of the void"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I found out that the best way to make (certain) people stop asking it is to just be entirely honest for a change.

Don't say "I'm fine, thanks. And you?" Launch into a depressing tirade about everything that sucks in your life and the world. Trust me, they'll never ask again.

Heavenly peace.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago (6 children)

The people from northern Germany have very honest, but simple way to answer this question.

„Na? Wie is?“ (How is your life going right now?)

„Muss ja…“. (It is going on because it has to.)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Then stop lying and say 'could be better.' gives the illusion it's ok but not the best.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

That's a Minnesotan way of saying it. Others are:

  • Could be worse.
  • I can't complaint.

You can learn more here: https://youtu.be/vm-MrkoJPC8

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you do that, people will ask more questions and you will have to tell them why you feel that way. Unless you want to tell complete strangers (or job clients) how you feel, I'm not sure about this strategy. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Not always. 90% of the time it's a greeting not a question asking specifics. Plus you can always close down followup questions with a statement like 'But that is not why we are here.' and carry on with the job at hand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I've gotten used to saying,"I continue to be blessed with gainful employment" in my usual flat sarcastic tone. At a surface level it's gratitude focused, but the context of my high-stress job and my deadpan delivery accurately communicates my stress level but in a way people find just humorous enough that it doesn't stress them out further in turn. Communicating my inner emotional state in a way they don't find stressful also helps create that very slight emotional intimacy that they're seeking by inquiring (but that also benefits the highly team-oriented nature of my work). On the other hand it allows both of us to maintain a comfortable emotional distance because it doesn't really prompt any in-depth response or further inquiry into my well being, just an acknowledgement that I said it such as,"I know, right?"

So I would maybe see if you can find a similar scripted / canned statement that communicates your actual emotional state in a slightly humorous manner. For instance "They're gettin' their money's worth outta me today!" or if you work in a 9-5 office job people might respond well to "Whelp. It's Monday alright." You could even go extra catch-phrase-y and say something like "maybe not thriving, but definitely surviving!" Exactly what sounds good with your overall "vibe" in the context of the "vibe" of your workplace will vary and might take some experimentation to find. My above canned response suits my personal vibe because I've got that hyperlexic autism thing going on so the relative complexity of my phrasing makes people go,"Yup, that's Apy alright!" (again, slight emotional intimacy) but also fits well in the context of a job that's expected to be stressful.

You can practice saying it in front of a mirror or under your breath and after a while it will just start rolling off your tongue with very little emotional or cognitive effort on your part. It'll also require less emotional or cognitive effort than ruminating on your inner emotional state and feeling like you're having to make a conscious decision about whether or not to lie about it or worse opening yourself up to dumb questions and statements from people who know next to nothing about how to actually discuss mental health concerns.

Source: am high acuity psych nurse with a borderline personality diagnosis. I've had a lot of social skills training as part of my own diagnosis / treatment plus I've observed a lot of people's behavior and had to learn a lot about team dynamics to do my job.

Best of luck!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I stopped saying I'm good. I just kinda shrug. If they ask how it's going, I tell them it hasn't stopped, and that's supposedly a good thing so...eh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I say what's up when people ask. People don't know how to respond/react or they laugh.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

No one really wants an accurate answer. It's just a greeting. Someone says 'how are you?' you say 'grand' then get on with your day. Same as when someone says 'what's happening?' They don't want a comprehensive list of your woes and such.

Edit: just found this - https://lemmy.world/post/25032324

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Well obviously, but I know that I'm lying and it just reminds me of how I'm shitty like 90% of days.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Could you maybe skip the answer and go directly to asking „how are you?“ back?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Adding a "thanks" acknowledges them asking. "Thanks, how about you?" Doesn't answer the question, but follows the social interaction formula of acknowledgment and throwing it back/mirroring.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Then say something different. Same shit different day, surviving for now, whatever. They'll shrug it off and move on. We all do it. My mom used to say, "it's a good day. I woke up on the right side of the dirt."

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