Don't let the door hit you on the way out you fucking loser
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Let me expand a bit on that idea: get the fuck out! Go away.
Given his threats towards Greenland i'd be happy to not have a hundred thousand US troops all over Europe to wreak havoc, if Trump decides to invade.
Also Europe has been a staging area for US invasions, wars and drone muders long enough.
I say pull them all, that would cripple their power projection towards Africa, Europe and the Middle East, and move forward with the creation of a EU Army.
Maybe. I think this supports Putin's goals more than anything.
Something to keep an eye on is the AEGIS Ashore platforms in Poland and Romania. These are ICBM tracking and interception facilities, part of the US MDA's Missile Defense System, and their specific purpose in being where they are is to defend Europe from Russian missiles. You can bet Putin would love to see them gone. If you see any news about reduced US military or MDA presence in those countries, you should be worried.
Yes, but only if the EU doesn't immediately replace the vacuum with their own forces.
(Do any of the EU nations have nukes that aren't owned by the US? Sadly such a deterrent is probably a requirement.)
(Do any of the EU nations have nukes that aren't owned by the US? Sadly such a deterrent is probably a requirement.<
European Nations have sufficient Nukes as a deterrent. Well I reckon one nuke plus their warheads would incapacitate most cities. There are like 500-600 officially between UK and France.
I've added some information to my previous comment. Europe might be able to replace the conventional forces, but my concern would be the ICBM defense capabilities. The US MDA has a lot of infrastructure in Europe, and that system has been fantastically expensive to develop and required decades of research and engineering build, and I doubt it can be replaced in less than 20 years.
Good to know. That's worrying indeed.
As a European, I say fine and sure.
But then we also withdraw from the Plaza accords.
Ever since China has winded down their US debt holdings, we have picked up the tab and the EU countries are now the largest foreign holder of treasuries.
Time to start selling.
And also, we only buy from European defense firms, no more spending on American defense.
what people don't understand is that europe must say goodbye to america, things are turning.
we (europe) should start considering being more independent (from the USA) and maybe, just maybe, actually talking to our eastern neighbours.
Can't wait to see our country join the bad guys in WW3. Exciting stuff
I see finally my stick stocks are gonna pay!
Maybe I should diversify into rocks as well.
I would appreciate if we could maybe not spit in the face of our allies at every available opportunity.
π we elected the wrong party for that.
wants to reduce the American contingent in Europe by about 20 percent and plans to ask for a "financial contribution" for the maintenance of the remaining troops.
Eat a dick, USA. Some partner. Maybe theyβll leave late like they showed up late for WWII after waffling about which side to join.
After the door hits them in the arse on their way out, be sure to repatriate all the land for those US bases. Make them pay 300% more for the land, after this term if they want to come back.
And use whatever money is saved to bolster one's own national military. We can't rely on the US any more for defence.
"financial contribution"
That doesn't sound mafia-like at all.