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ISO 8601 ftw rule (gregtech.eu)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Why would the year, the least important, need to be first?

And why are the pieces of the pyramid made so the ISO standard is the only one that looks right? ss:mm:hh:DD:MM:YYYY would also order the numbers based on length, but would look terrible if represented like that

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You can skip the year and just do 1-26

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know, why don't we all agree to agree and use every single possible format within a shared spreadsheet

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

My stupid ass read this top to bottom and I was confused why anyone would start with seconds

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Let's do it!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In one work report, I recorded the date as "1/13/25", "13/1/25" and "13JAN2025"

I have my preference, but please for the love of all that is fluffy in the universe, just stick to one format....

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

YYYY.MM.DD HH.MM.SS, as eru ilúvatar intended

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

I often have to refrain myself from using ISO-8601 in regular emails. In a business context the MM/DD/YYYY is so much more prevalent that I don't want to stand out.

Filenames on a share drive though? ISO-8601 all the way idgaf

[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Europe", as if there weren't several languages in Europe with different date formats per language...

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

None of which start with the month because that would be fuckin stupid

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (18 children)

Meh. It's getting a lot of hate here, but I think it works well in casual short term planning. Context (July) - > precision (15).

If I want to communicate the day in the current month, I just say the day, no month.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm almost 40 and now just realizing my insistence on how to structure all my folders and notes is actually an ISO standard. Way to go me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I stumbled upon it years ago because sorting by name sorts by date. There was no other thought put into it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

It's incredibly annoying that in clinical research we are prohibited from using it because every date must comply with the GCP format (DD mmm yyyy). Every file has the GCP date appended to the end.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Maybe in programming or technical documentation, but no, when I check the date I want to know the day and the month, beyond that, it's all unnecessary information for everyday use, and we have it right in Europe.

You can't change my mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

These people are just too far into the ISO rabbit hole. I completely agree with you that DD.MM.YYYY is the best format for everyday use.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you! 😂

E: I even said how I can see it being useful in some applications, but fuck, if I'm looking at the date it's almost certainly to see what day it is today, what day (and maybe month) an appointment is, what day some food is going off, stuff like that. I know what month and year it is right now, and if I want to know the time, I look at a clock, not a calendar. If they love extra and often unnecessary information so much they're free to use whatever format they want, but I'm good, and so are many others, and they just need to learn to be ok with that lmao

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That's what my work uses

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Don't you mean: "Right there! Stop you, I'm going to."

Yoda-ass date structure.

What day, of what month, of what year is it? It's ordered by importance dammit!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

...looks more like i'm you, gonna right, stop there...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

25th of July, 2024 is confusing?

There's no ambiguity with the format, since it's impossible to mix up month and day

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

yes, when the month is written non-numerically (and the year is written with four digits) there is no ambiguity.

but, the three formats in OP's post are all about writing things numerically.

In some contexts, writing out the full month name can be clearer (at least for speakers of the language you're writing in), but it takes more (and a variable amount of) space and the strings cannot be sorted without first parsing them into date objects.

Anywhere you want or need to write a date numerically, ISO-8601 is obviously much better and should always be used (except in the many cases where the stupid formats are required by custom or law).

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This pyramid visualisation doesn't work for me, unless you read time starting with seconds.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A pyramid is built bottom to top, not top to bottom. That's also one of the strengths of the ISO format. You can add/remove layers for arbitrary granularity and still have a valid date.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Offene Feldschlacht betritt den Raum

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but people read top to bottom. The best way to do it would be to have upside down pyramids. With the biggest blocks at the top representing the biggest unit of time (YYYY) and the smallest blocks at the bottom representing seconds & smaller.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

2025-01-26T11:40:20, you mean?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I get it, just pyramids are misleading, also year-month-day is better because resulting number always grows. 😺

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A bit out of context, but is your username and instance a reference to nescafe?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really but now that you mentioned it, it will! 😄

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That's an interesting coincidence

[–] [email protected] 105 points 3 months ago

MM ≠ MM !!!

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