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In the piece — titled "Can You Fool a Self Driving Car?" — Rober found that a Tesla car on Autopilot was fooled by a Wile E. Coyote-style wall painted to look like the road ahead of it, with the electric vehicle plowing right through it instead of stopping.

The footage was damning enough, with slow-motion clips showing the car not only crashing through the styrofoam wall but also a mannequin of a child. The Tesla was also fooled by simulated rain and fog.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

Painted wall? That's high tech shit.

I got a Tesla from my work before Elon went full Reich 3, and try this:

  • break on bridge shadows on the highway
  • start wipers on shadows, but not on rain
  • break on cars parked on the roadside if there's a bend in the road
  • disengage autopilot and break when driving towards the sun
  • change set speed at highway crossings because fuck the guy behind me, right?
  • engage emergency break if a bike waits to cross at the side of the road

To which I'll add:

  • moldy frunk (short for fucking trunk, I guess?), no ventilation whatsoever, water comes in, water stays in
  • pay attention noises for fuck-all reasons masking my podcasts and forcing me to rewind
  • the fucking cabin camera nanny - which I admittedly disabled with some chewing gum
  • the worst mp3 player known to man, the original Winamp was light years ahead - won't index, won't search, will reload USB and lose its place with almost every car start
  • bonkers UI with no integration with Android or Apple - I'm playing podcasts via low rate Bluetooth codecs, at least it doesn't matter much for voice
  • unusable airco in auto mode, insists on blowing cold air in your face

Say what you want about European cars, at least they got usability and integration right. As did most of the auto industry. Fuck Tesla, never again. Bunch of Steve Jobs wannabes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Tbh false stopping is a lot better than driving over children by mistake

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Had a situation driving behind a Tesla on a freeway in clear conditions with no other cars nearby, where they suddenly braked, strongly. I actually had to swerve to go around him. He looked over at me sheepishly. I was a skeptic about the FSD concerns before that happened. Now I try to be cautious, but there are so many Teslas on the road now, I can't double check that all of them won't suddenly freak out

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago

This, if the so called Tesla fans even drive the car, they know all of the above is more or less true. Newer cars have fewer of these issues, but the camera based Auto Pilot system is still in place. The car doesn't even allow you to use cruise control under certain circumstances, because the car deems visibility too poor. The camera also only detects rain when its pouring, every other situation it will just randomly engage/disengage.

I drive a Tesla Model 3 (2024) daily and I wouldn't trust the car driving itself towards a picture like that. It would be an interesting experiment to have these "Tesla Fans" do the same experiment and use a concrete wall for some additional fun. I bet they won't even conduct the experiment, because they know the car won't detect the wall.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Frunk is short for front trunk. The mp3 issues mostly goes away if you pay for LTE on the car. The rest of the issues I can attest to. Especially randomly changing the cruise control speed on a highway because Google maps says so, I guess? Just hard breaking at high speeds for no fucking reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

Our Mazda 3's adaptive cruise thought a car that was exiting was in our lane and hit the brakes, right in front of a car I had just passed. Sorry, dude, I made the mistake of trusting the machine.

Incidents like that made me realize how far we have to go before self driving is a thing. Before we got that car, I thought it was just around the corner, but now I see all the situations that car identifies incorrectly, and it's like, yeah, we're going to be driving ourselves for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's brake, the car brakes.

It probably breaks as well, but that's not relevant right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Walk on by. I break down and cry.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago

I read that in Leslie Nielson's voice.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 20 hours ago

In this case it might be both