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Not everyone is beautiful. Most people are average and many are not attractive.
Obesity is not beautiful. It is unhealthy and honestly delusional.
Edit: Most people are thinking of this when mentioning obesity.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=real+obese+people+&t=h_&iar=images
Not this.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=heavy+rugby+players&t=fpas&iar=images
Complaining about the BMI scale is a disservice to those who truly need to lose weight for their health.
Same with being underweight. It is also not healthy or beautiful.
Yes, but actually no. I'll not discuss taste because that's very personal, but while as a general rule obesity is unhealthy and most obese people should change their habits, the way we define obesity is with BMI, which is extremely inaccurate for very short or very tall people, not to mention bone and muscle density is different for different people, I have always (since at least 13 YO) have been in the obese category, even when I was training daily and could run a few kilometers at around 5 min per km I was obese, even though I looked only slightly overweight, the reason is because I have dense bones and at the time had lots of muscles (which are lots denser than fat). So while there's a strong correlation between being obese and being unhealthy one should be very careful not to mix the two and assume a 100% correlation or causation effect.
I hate BMI. I am working on losing weight, but I am gaining muscle at the same rate I'm losing fat, so my weight has hardly changed. None of my clothes fit anymore and I am much slimmer, but still considered obese. I'm not even weighing myself regularly at this point. I'm just going by how I look and feel and my clothes size.
Yup, don't bother too much with BMI, like I said, I've been obese all my life, even when I was in better shape than almost anyone I knew and was training and beating people that looked a lot better than me.
If you want to show just how absurd it is, look at the world strongest man, his BMI is 40.7 which puts him as an obese type 3, even now that I'm in the worst shape of my life I'm not in that category.
Holy shit that's wild. Is BMI good for anything, then? Or does it need abandoned?
BMI misses more often in the other direction (skinny-fat), being fit and obese is much less common.
It's my understanding that the only proven health metric with regard to size is waist to height. Your waist measurement less than half your height? Then you don't have too much abdominal fat, and it's the abdominal fat that is a bigger risk to your health.
The whole fat acceptance movement is honestly gross AF.
I don't care how happy you are about it. This shit is not healthy and we shouldn't be promoting it.
Says fat people promote unhealthy lifestyles. Gif: An obese chick getting exercise while playing an instrument that takes considerable muscle control and a high lung capacity.
Damn. Lot of people really hate fat folks. I'm just saying you want to prove fat people are unhealthy— a woman in a career that takes a high level of stamina and discipline isn't a great example.
Yeah that's a terrible example of an unhealthy fat person, she is an outlier for sure, was so overweight and could run and sing at the same time! I'm sure it's harder on your joints and all but if someone can out-dance you, while singing loud, she is in better cardiovascular shape than you.
My brother is obese and also one of the fittest people I know. He can walk miles without breaking a sweat, no high blood pressure, no high cholesterol, heart is doing fine, no arthritis, etc. ad nauseum. He's fat because he eats a lot, but everything he eats is home cooked with plenty of veg and little meat. He just loves cooking.
My doc said the other day she prefers it when her patients are heavier, because when people get very sick, it's the "healthy" thin ones who die first in the ICU purely because they don't have any fat to spare.
As to your second point, I have a personal hypothesis that cancer is the reason for the middle-aged gut. Hell, guess it could be disease in general. Anyway, with a few extra pounds you have more time to fight.
I'd even go so far as to say obesity is unattractive, because it's unhealthy.
Healthy is of course beautiful.
People speculate that this is one of the reasons why those most opposed to weight loss medications like Ozempic are, in fact, fit people. In a world where most people around you are obese or unhealthy, being fit becomes a way to signal discipline, long-term planning, a healthy lifestyle, competence, and so on. But now that you can get lean without putting in the effort, it dilutes that signal.
Yeah but I think it'll just be a more explicit marker of wealth instead, sort of how so much of fashion boils down to "how much are you willing to spend?"