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If yes, where would you move to?

If no, why not?

I ask this as someone who has moved around a lot (5 states) for better working opportunities. I often hear people say they wish they could leave their current city/state/country, but money is often (understandably) an issue.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's very telling how many Texans are in this thread with affirmative responses.

As someone who lives in Texas, I agree. I'm not from here, military transplant, but I did set it to my "permanent state" specifically so I could vote here. If I'm being forced to live here, might as well do my part to try and change the fuckery going on.

However, the absolute second that the ink on my DD214 is dry, I will NEVER set foot in this state again. Not purposefully anyhow.

It sucks, because Austin, SATX, and my personal favey fave: Houston, are all fucking awesome cities. But they're not worth it. Not worth it to see how much Texans with money prioritize the dehumanization of immigrants, women, and the LGBTQ+ community.

If money was no object, I've always been smitten with the idea of Canada. I like much cooler weather than Texas provides, and I want nation-wide socialized Healthcare. Surprisingly difficult to immigrate too from what I've seen on a cursory glance though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I've been trying to convince my wife that we should move out of the USA for 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I was recently on a group hike with a university club, and an Austrian exchange student kept talking about how good life in Austria is. He attends university for free, lives in a vibrant city with great public transit, and with affordable housing.

My city has unaffordable housing, shit transit, and an inept local government. We are staking our future on oil prices constantly going up. The last time oil prices dipped was catastrophic, with mass layoffs and unemployment in nearly every sector.

On top of this we are being hit extra hard by climate change. Last summer I couldn't go outside because of wildfire smoke, and this year is going to be even worse. Every year there's less and less water, to the point where year round drought seems like an inevitability. Our politicians are climate change deniers. The people who elect them couldn't care less, and cry about any measures taken to mitigate it's effects.

I don't want to be stuck paying $2000 a month for a studio apartment as the climate around me slowly degrades, and my politicians try their best to turn us into America.

A sizeable fraction of the students I've talked to about this has or is playing around with the idea of leaving. Austria is just the first country that came to mind, but I would take almost any EU country if the opportunity was offered.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Honestly thought you weren't talking about America until you said turn us into America. Which country is this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Canada, specifically Alberta. I would say that it's better out east or on the coast, but housing over there is even worse than it is here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Canada, awful wild fires last summer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Language is really the issue. It really narrows my options. I guess new zealand or Australia might be nicer, though I here Australia my be moving backwards (I mean right lol). All in all, I would like to live somewhere people come first, not profits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most western Europeans speak English with the exception of Iberian countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I have been to france, england and iceland. Iceland, very little english. France more of it for sure, but not a deep understanding of it. So I am sure I could get directions and what not, but casual conversation with friends isn't really going to happen in English. And england... I think the french were easier to understand lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Trying to move to Senegal against all financial odds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I probably check out Australia, New Zealand, or Costa Rica.

My old answer would have been to check out a Nordic country, but I think trying to force my kids into Nordic languages would not be the best idea. A couple of my coworkers moved to Sweden. The one with older children seem to get along pretty well the one with younger children not so much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

1000% the only reason I haven't left where I am is because of funds. Moving out of country is expensive. As to where, a few options are on the table if I could go but would take more understanding the positives and negatives of each location a little more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dream is Colorado or Illinois. Despite the insane teacher shortage and my ample qualifications, Oklahoma doesn’t think queer people deserve to exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unless you have multiple incomes or a high-paying job, Colorado is getting super expensive

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Oh I know. Teaching pays nothing so I’m pretty fucked. Basically just waiting for them to mandate detransition, than I’ll probably just kill myself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Come to Kansas. We're slightly better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Move there? Not sure yet.

I would like to be able to visit and explore several other places before having to make the choice to move there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Maybe. Always wanted to see Ireland.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Yes. I live in Dallas and some medical issues make me sick any time the temperature gets above ~80.

The only reason to live here is the cost of living, which has risen quickly enough that other alternatives like Chicago are starting to look good.

Also, our state government is completely nanners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Probably not. I live in the midwest of the US. it's quiet, good school system, small town, within arms reach of several larger cities. Plenty of music venues, arenas close by. With one or two complaints about my state's laws, I am content.

If I had unlimited funds, I might look around out of curiosity, but I doubt I'd go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The three things that stop me moving to another country are money (or ability to get a job for the money I need), family (I have an elderly mum who I need to be around for) and residency issues (thanks Brexit). I guess if I was super rich I would be able to get residency more easily, but in the absence of a teletransporter it wouldn't fix the family issue.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If money were* not an issue

When using be in an if clause for an unreal conditional sentence, always conjugate it as were, no matter what the subject is. Even if the subject is first-person singular (I) or third-person singular (he, she, or it), still use were with an if clause in unreal conditional sentences.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/conditional-sentences-was-instead-of-were/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like to use “were” in subjunctive mood too, but what do you hope to gain in this correction? I see the value in controlling how you speak but I genuinely don’t see the value in correcting others. Language is descriptive not prescriptive, so while this is valuable toward teaching your children it just makes you look an asshole in the public square.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I hope that native speakers try to use their language correctly, so that non-native speakers such as myself don't copy their mistakes when learning through reading

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Probably not. The only thing I don't like about the place I'm living in now is having to deal with winter and snow but if money is not an issue I could come up with ways to deal with that better aswell. I don't think I would appreciate summer to the extent I do now if I didn't also have to suffer thru winter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I've moved because of money. So much higher salaries & lower taxes elsewhere... Greetings from Malaysia!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

For me, money isn't necessarily the issue. It's family. I don't want to live somewhere they're not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Uh money is an issue and I'm still getting out of this trash belt state. Even if I have to crawl on my hands and knees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I think if money were not an issue, probably I would either move to some sort of unpopulated island in the pacific, a space station, the moon, really anywhere I could sufficiently threaten geopolitical interests while being kind of isolated. Maybe even just the top of a new york high rise, lex luthor style.

More realistically, everyone's saying scandinavian countries, nordic countries, and these are popular for a reason. I could probably acquiesce, because I'm white and can speak english, but I also would pretty much be fine with any EU citizenship. I feel like there's a lot of different strengths and weaknesses that would be interesting to learn about from each and see which one I like the best, because I don't think it'd be a high level idea to judge any of them from the outside looking in. Likewise, I've also seen some taiwan suggestions, and that's kind of an interesting proposal as well.

I dunno. If money wasn't an issue, I think I might as well just stay where I am, and use it to do some cool stuff where I currently live. It's not really in the spirit of the question, but I think the main object, main limiter, in my life, probably in most people's lives, is gonna be money. I don't know if the context matters much, but then maybe thinking along those lines, I'd rather be homeless in a nordic country, so I might as well just kind of default to one of them because the consequences of financial failure there seem maybe less dire than in lots of other places. So maybe my answer is still the same as everyone else's, nordic countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If I had unlimited F You money, I would either leave Nebraska or sponsor some carpetbaggers from New York or California, preferably enough of them to sway the elections here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It might be easier to just buy off the existing legislature in the state. That way you aren't fighting gerrymandering.

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