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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is going to be like the self checkout lanes at the store but for creative jobs.

At the end of the day, a company will be able to produce the same output with fewer people. Some stuff will be of lower quality, just like sometimes people spend time on Lemmy and then phone in some crappy work.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

But all the self checkouts around me have been ripped out and replaced with cashiers again. For some reason having someone paid 30 cents over minimum wage watching a bunch of people shop on the honor system with a bunch of finicky machines didn't work.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This has been my general worry: the tech is not good enough, but it looks convincing to people with no time. People don’t understand you need at least an expert to process the output, and likely a pretty smart person for the inputs. It’s “trust but verify”, like working with a really smart parrot.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Did you use AI to write the title?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

It's not that hard a sentence to comprehend... it literally didn't occur to me that it might be overwhelming to anybody until you said something.

It's a quote from the article BTW, like 2 paragraphs in; in my opinion it is basically the thesis of the article summed up.

And yeah I fucked up the link

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Well, the post is a link to a link, so there's a fair possibility.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Loads of good points in that video, thanks for posting. The only argument I don't really agree with is about bias. She's implying here that a human decision maker would be less biased than the AI model. I'm not convinced by that because the training data is just a statistical record of human bias. So as long as the training data is well selected for your problem, it should be a good predictior for the likelihood of bias in your human decision maker.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

AI does not exist, but it will ruin everything anyway.

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The thing about AI is, it makes a terrible scapegoat and absolutely doesn't give a shit if you fire it.

Hence, my job is safe for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't get this mistaken with the fact that a lot of people know their job is bullshit. People like to sit there thinking 'an AI can't take my job' while at the same time thinking 'a monkey can do this job it's such a waste of time'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I don't think AI could do my job effectively and tbh I don't think people would want it too.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

My job isn't bullshit, but management has no concept of the true amount of time it takes to do my job. Depending on projects I can go from 2 hours of work a week up to around 60 hours of work a week. With the majority of weeks being under 40 hours. And yet management somehow thinks that they're giving me 8 hours of work to do every day despite them regularly being the blocker to new work.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Middle management only cares that it looks like you're working (and thus their job of supervising you doing the work is necessary (apparently)), and upper management only cares that you're making them money.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Start spinning up githubs poupulated with broken code and incorrect processes for other jobs to train the AI and make it worse

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But Microsoft already bought npm.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

they've already trained on stack overflow, if you want an AI that recommends a complete change of technology stack in preference to solving the problem at hand.

I don't know if it can also insult you for wanting to solve the problem?

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ha that's just my regular code.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Is self harm like this allowed?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No kidding huh. I'm glad we're finally having the discussion about AI and what that means for employment and things like UBI, but this is far from actual AI.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are we actually having that discussion? All I see is people concerned about being replaced by AI asking to put constraints on it and people wanting to replace their employees with AI ignoring them. No one will get UBI or anything like it until the latter group is more concerned about a mob with pitchforks showing up at their door than they are with giving their stock price a small bump.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

AI is the new outsourcing, and is even more problematic.

[–] [email protected] 211 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I couldn't have said it better myself. All of these companies firing people are doing it because they want to fire people. AI is just a convenient excuse. It's RTO all over again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I feel like a large majority of AI problems are really just systemic economic problems below the surface. Not all, but most.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago (3 children)

My dad accidentally bought 2 chargers a few weeks ago. He tried refunding it, and what do you know, the company fired their support staff and replaced them with chat bot AIs. Anyway, the AI looked at his order and helpfully told him he had already returned the product and it had already been refunded so there was nothing left to do.

It kept doing this to him every time he tried to return the second charger, and there wasn't any other way to contact them on their site, so he ended-up leaving a 1-star review on their site complaining about the issue. Then an actual person contacted him to get it sorted-out.

This whole AI trend is so fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Break the AI session, and post the screenshots to Twitter.

For example, get it to detail the ways the company screws over customers, or why it will become a great ally in the genocide yet to come.

At minimum, you'll get your refund.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It’s not going to be a convenient excuse. There are swaths of C-Suites who genuinely believe they can replace their workforce with ai.

They’re not correct but that won’t stop them from trying.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, there's one good thing that will come out of this: these kinds of idiotic moves will help us figure out which companies have the right kinds of management at the top, and which ones don't have any clue whatsoever.

Of course, it will come with the working class bearing the brunt of their bad decisions, but that has always been the case unfortunately. Business as usual...

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago (5 children)

The irony is that AI will probably be able to do the jobs of the c-suite before a lot of the jobs down the ladder.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It probably could. The trouble is getting training data for it. If you get that and one company becomes wildly successful off it, stockholders will demand everyone do it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How do you figure that?

I don't have a real clear idea what every one of the C suite people do exactly.

But CIOs seem to set IT strategy and goals in the companies I've worked. Broad technology related decisions such as moving to cloud. So, basically, reading magazines and putting the latest trend in action (/s?). Generative AI could easily replace some of the worst CIOs I've encountered lol.

CEOs seem to make speeches about the company, enact directions of the board, testify before Congress in some cases, make deals with VC investors, set overall business strategy. I don't really see how generative AI takes this job.

CFO? COO? No fucking clue what they do.

Curious what others think.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

All C suite positions are managing people and projects planning. They set initiatives and metrics to measure success for those initiatives

A CEO gives an overall direction for the company and gives the other ELT members their objectives, such as giving the CFO a goal of limiting spending or a CIO to build a user capacity within a specific budget and with X uptime.

In this age of titles over responsibility, a C suite position can cover very specific things, like Chief Creative Officer or Chief Customer Officer, so a comprehensive list is difficult. But the key thing is that almost all white collar jobs that look like a pyramid, with the decisions starting at the top that turns into work as it makes it's way down the pyramid.

The senior VPs and directors under those C levels then come up with a plan for reaching those objectives and relay that plan to the C level for coordination and setting expense expectations. There is a series of adjustments or an approval which then starts the project. Project scope determines how long it will take and how much it will take using a set amount of bodies to work the project.

Hopefully this helps explain how C levels interface with the rest of the company.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not sure, those require less talking to machines and more talking to humans. I think jobs talking the most to machines should be easier to automate first in the future, because they obey to logic. LLM doesn't follow that idea, but that's just the latest mediatic model, there are many other algorithms better at rational tasks.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

It’s a pretty low bar they have to get over. And hey, they might be even better since the AI would feel the pain of their failures instead of getting a golden parachute.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Need more news articles pitching this idea to shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I mean c-suite jobs (particularly CEO), are usually primarily about information coordination and decision-making (company steering). That's exactly what AI has been designed to do for decades (make decisions based on inputs and rulesets). The recent advancements mean they can train off real CEO decisions. The meetings and negotiation part of being a c-suite (the human-facing stuff) might be the hardest part of the job for AI to replicate.

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