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Hello, I recently bought an acoustic guitar, and this is my second attempt at learning to play.

I made some progress, teaching myself basic chords and strumming, but I'm having trouble following sheet music/chord patterns and similar resources. Sometimes, when I'm watching a YouTube video on how to play a song, they don't provide the strumming pattern or other details.

I've only been playing for a month, and I really enjoy it, but I feel like I'm starting to slow down again. I did download a book on how to improve my playing, which I plan to read later today.

I was wondering if anyone had a few resources they'd be willing to share.

Thank you!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just to add to my other comment, rocksmith is awesome if you have the reflexes for it. Otherwise, songsterr is great too. For learning strumming patterns I'd say relax your wrist and make sure your strap height is comfortable. I keep mine raised quite a bit to be able to hit high frets with ease. A lot of guitarists will disagree with me but use a thin pick and light strings.

Also, as I said in my other post adjust string action and practice everyday. I've been playing since I was a teenager and I play all styles of music. My forte is advanced lead stuff but my advice works for rhythm guitar as well. I'd say if your goal is rhythm you may be drawn to thicker picks, thicker strings, and lower strap height, but it's really about what feels comfortable to you.

Also, if you have any interest learning fingerstyle you may want to start on a nylon string guitar. I used a guitalele at the beginning and the difference in comfort blew my mind. Now I only play steel string acoustic when I need to record fingerstyle acoustic stuff, but there's a reason nylon strings are great for beginners.

If you need more advice about anything else guitar related just hit me up. I love passing down my knowledge.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Learn wonderwall by oasis and play it for everyone ๐Ÿ˜

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't watch any more videos. No more instruction and forced repetition of songs that already exist. Just play and play and play at least 10 minutes a day. Strum your fingers, listen to the sounds you are making, try to find pleasant ways to stitch together chords and strums into unique novel arrangements. Don't try to memorize twinkle twinkle or your favorite song. Make something new with the pallette you have unlocked in yourself.

A lot of music instrument people are academic theorist in their mentality. It saddens me to see creative types take what should be beautiful expressions of spontaneous whimsy and turns playing into dry formalized literature. Theres a reason its called playing the guitar and not working the guitar.

If you spend your time trying to learn the 'right way' as defined by so called guitar experts, you'll never experience learning how to play your way. Theres joy in finding new chords by chance, learning how to turn cacauphany into melody by sheer practice over the months/years and feeling the music come from inside. The art ends up more authentic and original that way, I feel.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Strumming patterns you'll just develop a feel for. You can practice that against your knee while just casually listening to the song. An exercise you can do for this is to practice three-chord rock songs. A LOT of songs are written with a progression of A, D, Em. Two examples off the top of my head are Louie Louie and Wild Thing. The difference between them is the rhythm.

I've been playing guitar for 25 years now, I do know how to read sheet music from band class in school, but I've never combined those two skills. I've been handed sheet music for Piano or some other part that had guitar chords over it, and a lot of the more intricate pieces I know I learned via tablature. The nice thing about tabs is they can be fairly easily made with ASCII.

You want a fairly easy way to make yourself sound WAY more impressive? If you're comfortable strumming chords, you can start picking individual strings instead. I like to use House of the Rising Sun as an example for this. The chord progression is Am, C, D, F, Am, E, Am, E. You can just strum along with a fairly simple rhythm, but, instead of strumming all strings, pick them individually as found in this tab. Your fret hand still does the exact same thing, but your pick hand does a little bit more. This song is a good introduction to this because your pick mostly goes "down" (physically toward the floor toward the higher strings) then back up a couple. It's also a fairly easy introduction to finger picking.

Fun fact about House of the Rising Sun: It's in common meter. Which means you can swap the lyrics for other common meter songs into it to interesting effect. Many of Emily Dickenson's poems are in common meter. So is Amazing Grace and the theme tune of Gilligan's Island. You can have a lot of fun mixing and matching lyrics with melodies. It's a fun trick to have in your repertoire when you're passed a guitar at a bonfire or something.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been playing guitar for 25 years now, I do know how to read sheet music from band class in school, but I've never combined those two skills.

"How do you get a guitarist to shut up?"

"You put sheet music in from of them."

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's not wrong.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Try new songs that seem easy till you find one that actually is easy, drill it till you can do it decently, try another song and do the same. That was me 25 years ago and I still love to play.

Learn to read guitar tabs, listen to single parts of the song till you can play that part and keep going till you have each part.

I found it way easier with songs I liked. They were probably harder to play but it kept me interested.

A video of someone playing the song might help with the strumming pattern but you get an ear for it pretty quick.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

The best advice I have for strumming patterns is to just listen to the song and try and just focus on the rhythm. Down strokes sound a little beefier and up strokes are a little more jangly. I'm terrible at identifying chords by ear but can get the rhythm down pretty much immediately. It just comes with time.

As far as playing songs I would not worry about playing just like the recording but just getting close enough that it's recognizable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Practice regularly until you get blisters. Go on minimum amount of time until they're good enough you can play some more until you build callus where you need it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I really enjoy it, but I feel like I'm starting to slow down again

This is how it goes for me and I've been playing for quite awhile. Feels like I stagnate then an "aha! moment" happens and I'm rejuvenated. Eventually I started taking lessons to improve.

Don't bother with sheet music IMO. Tabs are all you need. Learn the major open chords first, they'll get you farther along quicker than anything else. Don't fret (pun intended) if you are learning a song and it doesn't sound 100% the same.

Learning guitar takes some dedication before you feel like you're really getting it. Practice at least 30 minutes a day and it will come to you but it may be months before it sounds like music. As long as you're having fun. I tell people it's like learning to tie your shoe laces. All muscle memory. It was difficult at first but now your hands do it without you having to think about it or even look at it. Soon your hands with form those chord shapes the same way. Good luck!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Grab a circle of 5ths app and lean chords in these progressions.

I found an app called chord ai I don't particularly like AI but an AI that can tell me a chord in any song. I kind of fuck with that.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Convince yourself that you're not improving because you need that one guitar, only to play for one month and let it catch dust afterwards.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Can confirm. Worked for me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Most importantely have fun. Most people will tell you to practice regularly, but that's only possible if you genuinely enjoy playing. If you go for a daily routine of boring exercises, there's a chance it will create a loathing for the instrument and the practice, whereas if you do a bit of everything (cool riffs & refrains, tedious exercises, wild experiments, etc), you will build up a virtuous & pleasant realtionship with your instrument, and you will pick it up every day without even thinking about it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Put the sheet music down and noodle around every day for a few months

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Practice everyday, look into adjusting the action on your acoustic, and build calluses. Seriously though, practice everyday. There are no shortcuts to get around practice. If you practice anything enough you will get better at it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Justin Guitar, dude. On YouTube. Justin Guitar. Do it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I know everyone tries to avoid this and I'm sure you're trying to learn on the cheap like everyone else, but honestly, get a few lessons with a good local tutor. You'll learn more from them in a few short hours than you will with months of trying to do it yourself.

Famous guitarists never seem to say how much hard work went in to perfecting their craft, but it is a lot. And all the good ones took lessons and some still take lessons even though they're on international tours and have sold millions of albums.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Nathan Mills AKA Beyond the Guitar does a good job of not witholding any of that when he gives tips. He does tutoring as well, but I haven't tried it. His music is fantastic (mostly covers and arrangements, some compositions).

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Slow down. A lot. Slow down a painfully annoying and boring amount and rep the hard chord changes, the weird melodies, any of it. All of good technique is just good muscle memory and muscle memory is only built up through repetition.

Remember that every bad habit that you don't nip in the bud early can have after effects to your technique for years.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes this is amazing advice. Playing slow but consistently will eventually sound better. No breaks in the music or pauses to adjust fingers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In my opinion, outside of some specific songs, strumming pattern will end up being your personal touch. You'll strum in a certain way, and as long as the chord progression is right, it'll sound correct. More attention will be paid when you're playing individual notes. The rest is really up to you, and that's probably going to seem frustrating at first, but it's really liberating once you've been playing for a while.

My personal recommendation is to learn stairway to heaven by Led Zeppelin in its entirety. There are a lot of unusual chords, barre chords, techniques, etc in that one song. Additionally, you'll need to either practice hybrid picking or finger picking. When you finally learn it completely, almost any other song will seem easy to learn. I learned it in my first few months playing guitar (20 years ago) and I'm so happy that i did, i still find it pretty easy to pick up most other songs, but also find myself playing it from time to time.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, learn Stairway to heaven and then go try out guitars in stores.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That sounded snarky in an unhelpful way.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

:-) It was a genuine joke. It's the forbidden song, right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Know any songs that are good for learning piano?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For me it really helped finding arrangements of rock/metal, punk, and pop stuff. Some video game music too. I'd say try to find simple arrangements of your favorite songs. I'm no expert, but I've been playing almost daily for 5 years with no lessons.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One Final Effort is really hard. Got any good video game songs for learning?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QY5SWHMPwI8

This is the easiest version of One Final Effort I've found. Not super hard, but not beginner level. Keep it and try to play it slowly at first.

As for other video game songs, look into Chrono Cross and Chrono Trigger, older zelda stuff, older pokemon songs. Things like that would be better to start with. Really anything slow that you're already familiar with.

A few of the VG songs I used to learn were

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOOkfDXw0jM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lKGxoAlNhc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUryy_DRSI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2gaAEiq2vgQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OJnhg3QNe_M

Try to think of stuff like that to start. You can find tons of these easy sheets for free if you look around too. Although I did pay for musescore until they started charging me extra with no warning.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag can't get drag's fingers over this part of One Final Effort here

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh yea that's a tricky one. You want to keep your right hand in the chord shape as you hit each note. There are different ways to do it and it's entirely possible to do with one hand however if you use a sustain pedal you can hold the low note using the pedal and use both hands for the rest.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the chord shape? Are you saying to move the hand without moving the fingers?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The E B E section is the most common chord shape you'll see as you learn. It's the equivalent of a power chord on a guitar. If you want to get fast with one hand get used to keeping your thumb and pinky about an octave away from each other. In this instance that means the low E and high E.

Your instinct as you hit each note might be to use your thumb pointer and middle and move you hand but it will help you down the road if you get used to looking at the individual notes as a chord keep you hand in place as you hit eat note in the chord. In this section I would think about it like A B E is one chord. Then E B E is one chord going up then back down with the same fingers then move you hand into a B E B shape to hit the last 2 notes. Does that make sense?

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Drag thinks drag gets it, thanks!

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

No problem dude! Have fun and if you need more advice feel free to hit me up.

[โ€“] [email protected] -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Alas, drag never got into JRPGs, but drag will try One Final Effort and your other songs when drag can

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe you'd like these more:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=49e7gZ13-oA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vpCwRryy0kk

You can find simple arrangements of almost anything.

Otherwise just keep at it man. You'll get there if you keep practicing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so sorry that i don't, I'm not a great resource for piano. Good luck on your journey!!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pack condoms

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I think early on, it's really important to focus on getting comfortable with the instrument itself. When you start learning to play, it's common to have a lot of stiffness in your wrist and fingers. It's kinda foreign for your wrist and hands to move like that at first. Practicing frequently and developing your muscle memory will help get your hands to flow on the instrument.

It's less important when you start, to focus on getting the notes and patterns right. When most people start learning, they sound like shit. It can feel discouraging when you do all this practice and you still don't sound like your favorite band. I think that's where a lot of people end up quitting. And it's why that guy at every party knows how to play Wonderwall and nothing else.

Practice getting a good feel for the instrument. It's a good indication you've become fairly comfortable when you realize you're not looking at your strumming hand anymore as you play. The more comfortable you get, the easier things like the strumming patterns will get too.

Don't be afraid to play something a little differently if it's easier for you to learn. You can use it as a stepping stone to learning the original. Or you can just play your own version.

As far as resources go, I mostly have used YouTube and Ultimate Guitar. I think you'll find that a lot of guitarists don't use sheet music much. The most common form of written music for guitar is written in Tab, so familiarize yourself with that if you aren't already. I have always learned by looking up tabs on a song I wanted to play. You can always look for something else if you are more comfortable with that. But I think it's always easiest to get started on a song with some community-made tabs.

Keep practicing, don't give up. You will get better.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I tried it for a while. It was fun making basic open chords. But I could never figure out how to keep my fretting fingers from partially muting the non-fretted strings. I don't have super fat fingers or anything, I just couldn't figure it out.

And barre chords...forgeddaboudit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Thumb position is very important and you probably need the guitar neck far far higher than you expect. Get that right and things become easier. There are some good spider exercises for practising. I found barre chords are impossible on a poorly setup guitar but are easy if you have it setup well.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Keep at it! The learning curve is not a straight line, just like with any skill. You'll see fast progress, just to be followed by a long plateau of no progress or even feel you're getting worse. And then you notice possibly big improvement again. And again.

Don't worry about following sheets/chords initially. If chords are not in your muscle memory, you're basically doing three complex tasks simultaneously, reading, figuring out chords and fingering chords. I'd try to memorize one or two simple pieces first, to get the chords under your belt. Start simple and stay patient, it'll take time.

Don't forget the rhythm. Play on top of recordings. You can be pretty liberal with the harmonics, but if you keep a steady beat it'll probably still sound good.

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