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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sold 500 missiles to Iran is such a hilarious understatement of the shit show that actually was Iran Contra.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

the caption of a political cartoon i remember from back then:

"ronald reagan did for this country what pantyhose did for finger-fucking"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Yes, ofc, it's not like we remember him for his acting career.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

First president I ever became aware of. Fuck him and everything to do with him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

He was only acting!

[–] [email protected] 98 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The continued idolization of Reaganomics is a huge reason why the US continues to enshittify.

Maybe there shouldn't be such a focus on cults of personality and electing celebrities. Imagine qualified people being in office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I did. I was told I was transphobic and pro-genocide by some totally not russian trolls.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The thread of anti-intellectualism runs deep.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have a suspicion that anti-intellectualism and unaffordable education go hand in hand.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago

The most prosperous decade of the 20th century was the 1950s.

The top tier tax rate in 1950 was 84%, and that was the lowest it would be until 1964. The rest of the 1950s were at 91%-92%.

The important thing to remember is that nobody ever paid the top-tier tax rate. Instead, they spent their income. When they found themselves $10,000 over the line in 1955, and about to pay $9100 to Uncle Sam, they said "Hold up. Let's spend $10000 on something useful and deduct it as a business expense".

That spending turned into paychecks for the workers who produced the purchased item.

$10,000 over the line in 1988 meant they got to put $7,200 into their stock portfolio, send $2,800 to Uncle Sam, and the worker is laid off because they had no incentive to actually spend their excess income.

[–] [email protected] 254 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to the US. Maybe we should just stop electing shitty actors to do a difficult job.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Reagan was one of the worst things to happen to the US.

100% agree

Maybe we should just stop electing shitty actors to do a difficult job.

I'd argue the opposite on that tho.

We kept hearing with Biden that a president can't do much, it's all Congress.

So why are we running career politicians when the majority of America hates politicians? Why did we just one an ex-prosecuter when most Dem voters hate our justice system?

Like, we can at least halfway it with someone like Al Franken, someone that started out somewhere else then switched to politics. But why not just say fuck it and run Taylor Swift for president? Count on her carrying the entire down ballot and getting dual majorities and she just has to not veto what lands on her desk.

Either the president doesn't really do anything and is just a figurehead or it has to be someone with decades of government experience.

It can't be both.

But there's certainly no reason to keep picking people with zero charisma for what's basically a convoluted popularity contest. Even foreign relations, I guarantee foreign leaders would give Brad Pitt a better deal than Joe Biden. They're not getting down into the nitty gritty, the drones work out the details anyways.

Obama and Bill won off their charisma above all. Biden as well was incredibly charismatic back in the day, it's just as came out recently, his health had been an issue basically the entire term. I'm not saying this as a dig, but he is a shell of his former self. 40 years ago he was considered the best public speaker of his generation.

As much as I want a progressive and think they'd win on policy, what matters before the platform is charisma and we need to admit that.

It's insane we didn't learn it after Al Gore, but clearly the DNC didnt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We kept hearing with Biden that a president can't do much, it's all Congress.

Keep in mind that while the president can't do a lot of things unilaterally, there are a lot of things he can do to block, delay, and disrupt. Biden's plans were mostly creating new things, which takes Congress. Trump just wants to destroy. It's always easier to destroy than build.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reagan (or more specifically Michael Deaver) taught us that propaganda works incredibly well, almost every time.

Most of us didn’t learn it though. And here we are.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And even after 25 years, the Democrats have done shit to undo the damage Reagan started, they are either complicit or impotent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

And the only party in politics!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Republicans have controlled the budget through the house of representatives for 18 of the last 25 years. Can't pass any kind of programs if the branch in charge of funding anything doesn't fund the programs.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Jimmy Carter lost to him, and while looking back from fifty years later Carter looks progressive...

At the time there was a fracture of the Dem party from the left because they considered Carter too moderate.

The most important part of learning about our political history is understanding what we've lost over time. Like the existence of a party even remotely leftwing.

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A big reason for Carter's loss was the inability to solve the Iranian hostage crisis right before the election. Which we later found out Republicans colluded with Iran to not resolve it while Carter was in office, then the whole Iran-Contra shit.

Also reminiscent of how Nixon prolonged the Vietnam war for the same reason...

And I won't be surprised to find out in a decade Trump did the same with Israel.

Like, people kept acting shocked about current events just don't know we're watching reruns. It's like when people got excited about Game of thrones and waited years between seasons for cliffhangers. The books already existed and they could have just found out what happened.

But just like they wouldn't read the books, nobody wants to read a history book anymore.s

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