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LOL - surely the billionaire is going to be concerned about the plight of the American worker!?
The same guy that bought, then gutted, Xitter? Demanded people send him CODE for him to REVIEW?
I have some bad news for self-styled "Libertarians" that are also engineers...
That sweet, sweet H1B visa slavery
My job tried to strong arm a bunch of Indian engineers into going home with massive paycuts. They all found jobs in India paying more than what work was offering but let work pay their moving expenses back home before quitting. I'm super proud of those guys.
I thought AI meant we didn't need all these tech workers? /s
I'll believe any negative Elon news when it starts to actually hurt his pocketbook or well-being or life.
Until then I am apt to just consider it clickbait.
I dream of the day he's held accountable for something in a major way, but like my desire for that for Trump, I just have my doubts.
shortage of engineers? are you kidding me?
I know of two first degree of separation SWEs who can't land jobs. One worked at microsoft for like a decade.
FTFA:
Other followers accused Musk of simply not wanting to pay top talent what it's worth.
Bingo, got it in one. They don't want to pay american talent american wages, they want to pay all talent 3rd world country wages while they themselves pocket a 50 billion dollar contract.
I know a guy who's basically the Goku of computer networking. Listing his accomplishments would doxx him. It took him months to find an escape route out from where he was at.
He's running out of inexperienced engineers to burn through. He statedv early on that he wanted to create a surplus of engineers to drive down the cost.
That cost being, paying the engineers' salaries.
I work pretty closely with a lot of young engineers. My work brings them in as interns, hires them, but doesn't pay them very well and after 2 years we have new engineers because they've all found better jobs. Saturating the market with talent really hasn't worked out the way he wanted it to, because as it turns out that's nothing new.
So now he's gotta find a new way to pay engineers less.
So now he's gotta find a new way to pay engineers less.
I imagine it would be something like this:
Position: Senior ML Software Developer
Join the XTesla420X family of goal-oriented, success-driven, rockstar AI/Machine Learning engineers who aren't afraid to move fast and break things in the name of automation and mankind's future.With no middle management, you get to be your own boss* and set your own working hours**. The only thing holding to hold you back from greatness is your own potential, and we're ready to help you thrive in a fast-paced environment where the sky the limit and your own mortality is nothing but a temporary setback.
Requirements:
- 10 years industry experience
- No kids
- A 210% work ethic
- Intimacy with a Python
Compensation & Benefits:
- Exposure in lieu of salary
- Office vending machine
- Office cocaine (unavailable for remote workers)
- Optional unpaid vacation days on statuatory holidays
* reporting directly to Elon Mouske
** minimum 80 per week
They don't want to pay american talent american wages, they want to pay all talent 3rd world country wages while they themselves pocket a 50 billion dollar contract.
This is usually what tech bro ‘innovation’ boils down to.
The way to attract talented American engineers is to pay them more, not replace them with ringers. Fucking twat.
How are you going to get super talented engineers when you’re gutting everything good in America.
The goal is to lower US labor costs to below European ones and more akin to the typical 50k/year indentured servitude india H1B worker salary.
You look outside of the US and import them
In yet another chapter of the the bourgeoisie propping up fascists, thinking they can control them, only to lose the control immediately...
It's the immigrants taking your jerbs.....no wait not those.
Why don't you make the education system here in the US better first.
LOL who the fuck am I kidding.
FTFA:
Another Musk follower said that he should "open a school" to better train Americans, and then added, "We have brains."
"If you need a school, you’ve lost already," Musk replied.
You need a school? Get back to work peasant.
"Oh God! They're voting in their own interests!!! Burn it down!"
H1B Visa for me, none for thee
Why work for a man who expects his workers to work "hardcore" for 80 hours a week without any overtime pay?
Sounds like exploitation to me.
They like the taste of boot, that's why they're Muskrats.
Well to answer @[email protected]’s hypothetical - someone who hates Elon might run a simple cost benefit and still decide two brutal years of making no money is worth having a big T(esla)/SpaceX on their résumé.
Which is unfortunate because it would be good to see a revolt that led to a kinder leader of those companies.
"Immigrants for me, and go... fuck... yourself."
- Elon basically
It’s never too late to develop class consciousness, clueless tech bros.
Edit to add: Dollars to donuts, the people still putting up with Musk’s shit at 𝕏itter are the H-1B workers just trying to survive without getting deported. Two years ago: Why foreign workers in the US are especially vulnerable to the Twitter turmoil
Earlier this week, Elon Musk gave remaining staff an ultimatum to commit to working “hardcore” or to leave. But some staff who would like to leave the company feel like they can’t because doing so, may leave them no choice but to depart the US, multiple former Twitter employees told CNN.
Huh no way, the oligarch is going to make things worse for people in the country where he's an oligarch?
Shooketh
This is what's causing backlash? Not any of the Nazi shit?
Because this goes against the Nazi shit.
Hindu nationalists are about to be very, very surprised at what the Nazis actually think about their actual "Aryan" heritage.
Wait are there Indians that voted for Trump to get rid of immigrants?
There's always going to be ladder pullers but yeah
Most Indian Americans know what's going on but there's always that weird subset that wants to bring caste shit with them and such.
Musk doesn't want a championship sports team, he wants a cheap, desperate, obedient source of labour.
Yeah, he just wants more pliant and subservient H1B visa holders that he can pay less than he'd have to offer to an American, who will be deported after 2 months if they don't work hard enough to satisfy him.
Oh. Right.
By 'deported', I guess we're now talking about 'rounded up into mass concentration camps.'
I had a friend back a few years ago who was an H1B and it's fucking exploitive. They made him work off his visa. And since his visa is tied to his job he couldn't leave it. The place was toxic af.
The company was very much abusing H1B visas but unless someone at the company spoke up, it's just business.
By 'deported', I guess we're now talking about '~~rounded up into mass concentration camps~~ being administratively relocated to alternative living accommodations.
Ah yes, the American dream.
The American Dream has long since been corrupted by the wealthy into a pipe dream for the masses that funnels more money to the rich.
It's because they don't intend to do anything to improve the education around here. That would swing voters away from them.
The education available in the United States is excellent. Just not for everyone. Just like healthcare in the United States. The best healthcare in the world is available here, just not to everyone. Because of money. For those with access to it, the amount they pay for it translates into higher wage requirements.
Due to socialized education in other countries (and more robust and generally available high-quality public education), particularly in developing democracies, the average starting wage for similar talent is much lower abroad.
Musk would never consider an employee who didn’t go to Stanford or Harvard or MIT or a similarly well accredited engineering school. He also wouldn’t consider those candidates because they would have much higher wage requirements which he conflicts with “laziness“. If the richest man on earth ever were actually willing to pay a living wage to Americans, he would still have the top talent he could get elsewhere. But, as a Self interested business person, he only cares about what’s cheaper. Therefore, he integrates anything that isn’t his primary choice in order to make his immoral business decisions appear more ethical. Or at least reasonable.
When it really translates to his: “I would hire American talent, but they feel they deserve to be paid better than what I’m willing to pay anyone other than myself.”
The education available in the US is also at its most expensive for overseas students, who are desperately courted by universities for a massive cash influx (source: am post-academic who witnessed this untold times). Wealthy families send their kids over at ungodly tuition rates, the students go back home and have the prestige of a US degree, which matches them up with high-paying jobs and ensures that the family’s wealth cycle continues.
A snag: the universities make so much money off these students, that if the student is struggling or not meeting a requirement somewhere, they’ll get waved through regardless with obviously bad results. The money is the point. I suspect if Elon did start importing people for lower costs, he’d get a lot of these students: they’re not hacking it back home but have a US degree from solid R1/R2s, come with a nice letter from their parents’ company, and are willing to be low-paid yes-people in order to cover their asses. Gambit? Masterful. Dick? Fully in car door. Car door? Expertly slammed.
I literally just said all of that, but I already said all of that. Just with more context and explanation.
Well, I’m glad you get what I’m saying, repeating it isn’t helping anyone.
Nothing is worse, however, then you excusing the shitty actions I’ve described. That just makes you complicit.