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I've been looking to move on from membrane keyboards and go mechanical, but no matter where I look literally every mech has some form of obnoxious RGB lighting on it. Are there any that just.. don't have it?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

You can usually shut off the rgb lighting all together.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Ducky Origin

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I love the WASD Code it's just built like a workhorse. Their newer models have backlighting but it's all white, the only thing you can RGB is the 3 indicator LEDs (caps lock etc...) which are very discrete and personalizing them is entirely optional. No software, everything is done & stored on-board. They're pricy but usually they'll have some banger black friday or holiday sales.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Filco is a typist's professional keyboard.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Simple solution: turn off rgb. Usually can be done throigh software or theres a dedictaed fn key combination for it

Or you can go down the mech keeb rabbithole and start collecting nice boards

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.daskeyboard.com/

Das keyboard - excellent for years and years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was about to post this.

I'm on my 2nd blank one from them now.

No RGB, not even any print on the keys. So nice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I love the blank one. It's great for everyday use apart from passwords! Maybe I need to come up with longer word-based passwords with spaces so they're easier to type. https://xkcd.com/936/

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Just turn it off? Or keep it as a backlight, set it to one solid color you like with brightness turned down to be subtle but useful.

You don't need to keep it on rgb puke.

Snark aside, pick a keyboard you like for the size/feel/features and find out if its a software nightmare (razer) or not before worrying about rgb (just make sure rgb can be configured).

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I don't want my keyboard to have software configuration on my PC. It's a fucking keyboard. It doesn't need and shouldn't have an app.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

There are reasons you may want an app besides rbg: like if your keyboard supports macros, or if you have a hall sensor keyboard and you want to configure the activation and deactivation heights of your key presses.

But yeah, I kinda think rbg keyboards are lame

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Install once, configure, uninstall

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Razor needs the software running to remember the key map or macros. Any special keys such as play/pause needed the fucking software. Even the mouse needs the software running to remember I set it to a static color.

Don't buy Razor.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Oof, I guess Logitech is better in that regard

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

*Assuming the keyboard has on-board persistent memory.

If the keyboard is unplugged or the computer is turned off, without persistent memory, it will revert to default. Always check the features of the keyboard before you buy. If you want to avoid using bloated, buggy OEM software, check to see if your keyboard is supported with software like OpenRGB. Typically this only supports the lighting configuration. Things like macros may still require you to install OEM software. And hopefully it has persistent memory to save it to the device.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Ducky keyboards and most rgb mechs let you define the keyboard just with fn combinations. The software is for convenience

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Are there any keyboards without nightmare software. I'm coming from a Corsair keyboard and iCue sucks, and also the keyboard somehow stops controllers from working with Steam. (This is a known issue I've seen posts about on the official Corsair forum and they just won't fix it)

Edit: Thanks for the suggestions, I will look at some of those brands and see what they look like. I was originally planning on getting a custom one from Glorious Gaming cause I tried them at Best Buy and liked how they felt along with the replaceable switches and how customizable they are. But if anyone else has used this brand and has thoughts I would love to hear them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Wooting's pretty great with their webapp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Nuphy boards use QMK which is configurable through VIA which is open source and web based. Pretty convenient. Otherwise you can just configure it using button combos as per their instructions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Keychron uses QMK and can be configured through their website or software and I believe it just flashes new firmware so you don't have to keep the software running.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My cheap-o ($40; uses a knock-off of CherryMX switches) mechanical keyboard doesn't have the option to turn the lights off or change how they display. It also doesn't turn off when the system is in sleep mode; only when totally powered off. :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That stinks. Have you tried using openrgb or even windows lighting control? Might be time to take a tiny hammer to each light :p

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Keychron makes some. I've had two of their keyboards and love both of them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also have white led Keychrons. Both are K2s.

Loved them at first, overtime I’ve grown to strongly dislike the wasted key for the white backlight but they’re still great keyboards - especially for the price.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I use a Cooler Master Masterkeys Pro M white LED board with MX Blue switches. It's nominally a gaming board but it's very subtle, the "It's a gaming product so it has to look like Gigatron's left knee cap" is held to a minimum. I mainly use the backlights in the "all keys lit" mode at its dimmest brightness or turned off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You need to leave away the firstname "Gaming" from your search terms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you really want the retro experience, you can get a modern USB version of the original IBM Model M keyboard from Unicomp (https://pckeyboard.com/). I believe these are made on the same equipment that made the Model M back in the day. Buckling spring keys, metal frame, huge, heavy, and loud. Lots of configuration options and the only lights on them are the (admittedly annoyingly bright blue) lock status LEDs. I've used an original Model M and own one of these. They're amazing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Ducky makes fantastic keyboards and some have no lights. For the ones with lights, you can turn them off.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (10 children)

I've never really understood why people specifically avoid buying products with RGB lighting. You can usually just set it to a color you like, or simply turn them off. Instead people don't buy the thing they want because of the "obnoxious RGB". Imo it's like not wanting to buy a nice speaker because when you tried it at the store the volume was too high or you didn't like the sample track it played.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Because you're paying for a gimmick instead of quality, and you don't wanna support products that dont do that, and in capitalism that's the only way to vote for what products get created.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The RGB inevitably resets itself and turns back on. Some of them are easy to turn off. Others require software (malware) you have to explicitly install to turn off the RGB.

My desktop has a lovely feature where if I turn it off the RGB turns BACK ON. And it turns out my case is just the right angle for the RGB to shine into my face when I’m in bed.

So yes I will pay more money to not get RGB.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Any decent keyboard saves the rgb profile on the keyboard itself. My ducky, nuphy and any keychrons I've used never reset their rgb or macro settings.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My Keychrons do. They really don't like being connected to my dock or something and everyone once in a while they'll randomly reset themselves. The keychron just lets me hit the backlight down key, but if I've replaced their shitty ass factory keycaps with other ones then I don't know what that key combo is.

My keyboard at home has dip switches so I can just turn off the lights from there, and they will never turn back on. That is how it should be done, not software garbage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

That's unfortunate. A few of my co workers have keychrons and they disabled/set their back lights to a static colour and they've never had issues with it resetting.

My ducky keyboard has DIP switches and it's nice to be able to swap what I want from there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

What sold me on RGB was when I learned that you can do more with it than just solid colors and rainbow vomit. You can actually use the lights as pixels, and display crude images that are actually visible if you use use enough lights and squint your eyes a bit.

When I first found out about that, I went from anti-RGB to RGB all the things in my latest build. RGB motherboard, RGB RAM, RGB AIO, RGB fans, RGB keyboard and mouse, RGB cables... Anything to increase the "pixel" count for a clearer image. I wanted to buy even more but then I ran out of RGB ports on the motherboard.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Is that software available for every platform? Whenever I hear Gamer(tm) features, I assume that the crap customization software for Windows only. I like my mouse, but I can only customize the layout in Windows.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Many higher-end keyboards run QMK, which is a custom firmware you can modify to make all kinds of customizations to your keyboard. And the best part is that it requires no client software, it's all on-keyboard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know about the diy stuff, but I'm talking about the Razor shit. Apparently there in software, but I'll just as well make a keyboard that I actually own.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Some might have an unofficial Linux utility, many keyboards also allow you to customise the RGB on The keyboard itself without software

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

OpenRGB has support for a ton of devices; just make sure the keyboard is supported before buying it.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago

I can get not wanting to pay for a feature you actively dislike

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah they are really helpful at night when it’s dark. Mine is just set to a solid amber color.

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