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[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Yes. I moved from cigarettes to vape about five years ago. I was steadily reducing vaping to quit entirely before the pan happened and I allowed myself to continue vaping to aid anxiety. I have not attempted to quit since.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 minutes ago

Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping πŸ˜…. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 27 minutes ago

I quit smoking cigarettes after moving to vape but vape isn't better for you so, it's just reading one for another.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 52 minutes ago

You can try but some people are allergic to the liquids used. And the person vaping has to slowly decrease the nicotine amount over time, a lot of people start increasing it instead and end up with more unhealthy nicotine levels than regular cigs. Also vaping is not good for the lungs either.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.

Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Absolutely, there is no mistaking vaping is bad for you. But there are levels of bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

Additionally, there has not been enough legit science data to indicate how bad it is.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I did, not sure it made it easier though. It took away two negatives for smoking for me, it didn't smell bad to others and I could smoke inside.

If anything it made it harder to quit, but they're supposedly much better for you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Regardless of the health benefits for you personally, they're much better and less unpleasant for those around you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

I'm not sure that vaping inside is better than smoking outside. You're right about it being more pleasant and likely right about it being healthier, do you know of any research comparing second hand smoke on clothes to second hand vape (comparing smoking outside to vaping inside)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.

The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.

No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don't work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Agreed. There is a lot of new research on vaping. Could potentially cause a number of issues, but probably still better than actual smoking. I've heard the inhalers work sometimes because of the nicotine as well as the physical movements involved.

I've also seen exactly one ad (on YouTube) for some sort of flavour inhaler (no nicotine) if you're having trouble with the physical aspect. Can't say any more about that though, as I haven't looked into it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

100% yes. It made a big difference for me. I didn't even want to stop smoking I just did.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Depends on what part of it you're addicted to.

I just want nicotine. I don't care out of what.

Some people want the feel, sensation and flavor of a cigarette.

I just want my fix so I can carry on with my day.

That's kinda the line between moving to a vape or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Cosign, I just liked the smoking myself. Vapes made it worse if anything cus it made smoking more conventent πŸ˜‚ no ash, ashtray or lighter thats somehow always missing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Also being able to do it indoors without practically any negative side effect doesn’t help lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I got a few people around me who are trying to find a good reusable vape. Those seem to have disappeared which makes it harder to self regulate.

If anyone has a hood recommendation I am all ears.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I personally know multiple people who did

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

someone = yes

everyone = no

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

20 years ago I quit smoking with chewing tobacco aka dip. That shit is WAY better than cigarettes. Dip was even harder to quit. Then I went back to off and on cigarettes for 18 years. I have not had one in a year and a half and have no intention or desire to ever start that shit up again. Welbutrin is also pretty helpful for this. My best friend did mostly quit by switching to vape though, so I think it can work. I'm pretty sure it's also just as bad for you though?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Nope. I smoked for over 30 years. Took up vaping to quit and all I did was vape more than I ever smoked.

For me, what worked was… I had to go back to smoking regular cigarettes, then use Wellbutrin as a smoking cessation. Took about a month and a half-

I’ve been smoke free for over two years.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

Yup.

An older friend who smoke and drank a ton switched to vapes, and methodically lowered the nicotine content every two-there weeks for months, then stopper nicotine and vaped the flavours but as there was no more nicotine, the habit wasn't addicting and he just forgot about it more or less.

Now he's been alone free for years, and reduced his drinking as well. Looks fucking healthy now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

My mom did. She smoked cigarettes since the 80s and quit in 2012 with vape. She never smoked a single cigarette after that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I did but it took me a long time, years and years, with occasional dips back into smoking.

Now though it's nearly been 2 years no vape or anything and at least three years of no nicotine.

I went up and down in nicotine levels, I used big huge cloud throwing fog machines and little tiny disposables.

I eventually settled on a unit with a built in rechargeable battery and pods with replaceable coils (geekvape aegis)

I don't think vaping will naturally result in quitting, it I do think it's the most effective harm reducer out there and as a tool has many ways to help reduce use over time.

High nicotine disposables (elf bars, juul) I would stay away from if you can though since the nicotine concentration is so high that it can deepen the addiction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Yeah pretty much everyone I know that picked up a vape

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

To stop smoking I will smoke something else. A better logic would be, I'll use something that can have a reduced nicotine content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

That's what's so great about vapes, you can precisely chose the nicotine content. You might go up a bit in nicotine when you switch from smoking to vaping to ease the transition. But after that you can easily tweak the nicotine content to lower it bit by bit until you reach 0.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The logic is flawed here because vapor and smoke are completely different things. You wouldn't conflate the steam coming off a pot of boiling water with the charred remains of that frozen pizza you forgot about in the oven an hour ago would you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I wish I could vape. This is gonna sound stupid, bc it is, but I’m a chronic asthmatic who has smoked for about 20 years now. Been intubated twice for asthma. And yet I still can’t put the damn cigarettes down. I’ve tried patches, gum, hypnotism, medication, you name it.

Vaping was the only thing that was helping when I switched but believe it or not, it was bothering me way more than a cigarette. Immediate throat scratchiness and shortness of breath. That doesn’t happen with smokes though. I’ve tried all sorts of vapes too. All with the same result.

Smoking is probably gonna be what takes me out and it sucks that I feel totally powerless. I will say though, that the book β€œThe Easy Way to Stop Smoking” by Allen Carr got me off cigs for about 3 months. Then my grandpa died and it all spiraled back from there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Two things:

Cigarettes contain ingredients to suppress some of the negative symptoms of smoking. One reason you might have irritation without the cigarettes is because the cigarettes are preventing you from feeling the irritation they cause. Just a thought. It might make sense to see if you can get other medication to help with those issues until you are able to stop vaping too.

Also, hearing that the death of your grandpa caused a relapse suggests you might want to try quitting again, but with some sort of therapy/support. Try the book method again, but make sure you have someone to talk through issues with.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Apologies for what could well be a dumb suggestion: Herbal / nicotine free cigs exist. They might be an avenue of escape if you haven't tried that already.

Smoking isn't just the nicotine fix, it's the whole ritual of getting away and doing something else for a while. Scratching that itch might work.

Of course there are other ways to get away and do something else for a while, but those are for later.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

Yup.

I smoked a pack a day for roughly 30 years. My night time breathing was getting ugly and my wife would sometimes get woken up by the sound of my wheezing.

Every method of quitting failed me except vaping. I started as most do with a high nicotine vape juice that tasted like tobacco, but after about a month I swapped and started going lower and lower nicotine and change the flavor from tobacco to a custardy type.

2 months of that got me off the cigs. Two more months got me down to zero nicotine. Two or three more months after that I was done.

I have been off cigs for 7 years.

My breathing no longer feels wet or difficult at night. And My yearly health tests all come back the same as a non-smoker.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.

I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Crazy hearing vaping helped you stop 13 years ago. My brain tells me they only came out 2 years ago...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

Vaping blew up around 2010 and gradually increased in popularity until all of the Juul controversies happened. Since all of the laws passed to restrict it more, it is now easier to get a non-reusable piece of ewaste than reusable and refillable stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

Naw there were vapes when i went to high school in the mid to late 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't personally know one person who did. They just moved onto doing both

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