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Keith Poulsen’s jaw dropped when farmers showed him images on their cellphones at the World Dairy Expo in Wisconsin in October. A livestock veterinarian at the University of Wisconsin, Poulsen had seen sick cows before, with their noses dripping and udders slack.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

There's been multiple reports over the years about how America is vulnerable to disease in livestock and plants. So I'm not really shocked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Luckily my wife and I never stopped masking because we went four years without being sick and it was about when stuff was being relaxed mask wise that we realized we had not gotten our usual yearly cold or flu. Was not sure how long we would make but we got to four years then caught something, not covid and if it was the flue then not to bad a cases but it was noticable enough that we knew our streak as ended.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago

Oh no! If only there was something we could have done!!!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

RFK Jr. is going to be heading the Dept. of Health and Human Services....which establishes national vaccine rollout programs. He's an anti-vaxxer. He will do everything in his power to see that any vaccine programs are extremely difficult to rollout if not impossible to establish. Your best bet will likely be full masks and isolation (i.e. 2020 again).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

This is crazy too, because as a falconer RFK should be extremely familiar with bird flu. We've been dealing with it for years and there's a story of someone's falcon or hawk dying from it semi-often. If he's part of a club he'll get HPAI reports even. I went to the national meet a few weeks ago and they separate birds that chase ducks and birds that don't (quarantine zones).

Although I guess it's possible to know something exists and deny that it has a solution. So dumb.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you think, timeline feels similar. What the r value?

Shut down around at Paddy's. I could use another vacation. Fuck that year was awesome.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but this time there won’t be any unemployment money and no one will work from home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, I need money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

oh. believe me. I understand that pain currently.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

“Experts say they have lost faith in the government’s ability to contain the outbreak.”

Who should have been isolating sick cows from the rest of any given herd? Most of the yahoos with these sick herds welcomed the idea of their Holy Cheeto dismantling “th’ gubmint.” So whose fault is it again?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

"I want all of the benefits with none of the costs or inconveniences."

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago

The government regulators for being captured by the yahoo ranchers and not listening to the expert virologists

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If it makes you feel better, the CAFOs are putting most of them out of business.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Who do you think is having unrestrained spread of disease in their herds?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish this was an "Animals as leaders" reference, but it refers to "concentrated animal feeding operations"...

Which I learnt because of Animals as Leaders.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I will fight Tooth and Claw to recognise it as the reference

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

cafos are just one step in the supply chain. they are grazed for about a year then grain finished in a cafo

[–] [email protected] 101 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Just in time for a Trump Presidency. This is going to go swimmingly. Hold on to your tits folks, shit's about to get real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biden is still President though. It shows that the CDC and FDA have been captured so thoroughly by corporate interests they're just not fit for purpose any more. That's not just Trump's fault, it's decades of chipping away at those agencies by Republicans and corporate Dems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Stuff like this happens. They are monitoring it. Actions unbeknownst to us are happening. If we get rid of the FDA and CDC, what do you think replaces it? You trust the Cabinet of Trump-supporting billionaires to "think of the people" when coming up with a replacement?

It's not like Trump would have done anything different than Biden, given Trump's history with COVID-19.

I don't trust Trump or his cronies to do anything that doesn't benefit them and their wallets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago

I'm not saying get rid of them, I'm saying strengthen them so they can stand up to corporate interests. I also don't understand how you could read my post as somehow an endorsement for Trump. Of course he's going to make things worse, it's what Republicans do.

The dynamic has been a ratchet effect since FDR died: Republicans roll back the New Deal, and Democrats just stop the rolling back while they're in power without managing to reinstate anything because enough of them are also beholden to campaign money.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As long as there's a good, available vaccine, IDGAF. I'll make sure my family gets quadruply vaccinated, and wait for idiots that reject vaccines to start beefing it.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/872/842/1c4.png

I will be sad for old folks, babies, people who are pregnant, and the immunocompromised though. We just need to learn this lesson sooner rather than later, before it's something completely fucked up like nipah virus, which will fuck our shit up if we don't have a damn good vaccine and containment protocols in place.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I love how naively you think that you'll be able to get your hands on a vaccine in the US...

If you're not in the US, lucky for you!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Even if you get vaccines, with an entire continent being absolutely ravaged, you won't be safe, no matter how far you live. We live in an interconnected world, and do a lot of travel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Good point.

After the inevitable mass deaths, People like rfk should be held accountable for mass murder

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Will RFK Jr be the next Herman Cain?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He will be the next Typhoid Mary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ivermectin Ivan

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

This would make my year

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Don't give me hope.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Great thing to look forward too. Buy toilet paper now!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Invest in a bidet instead, avoid the problem entirely

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Are you leaving the bathroom with swampass or drying your ass with a towel?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Are both so impossible?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can use toilet paper, only a square or two needed.

So that bit of TP roll literally lasts months. I have ~12 rolls left in my closet, which should last about.... 3 or so years?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The bidet I got dries your ass with warm air after the water works cease.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dryer add on is a thing just checked

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can also use a small amount of toilet paper to pat dry. Way less than you'd be using to clean up, like a square or 2 and you're done.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'd imagine minimal 70% reduction.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It would be kind of funny if two "once in a century" pandemic happened right during both of Trump's terms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

They will then ask for a third term.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

It would be if they didn't consistently spin the failures onto their defacto opponents and their base willfully taking their word at face value despite actual evidence to the contrary.