Real question, can someone be both transgender and non-binary?
I thought transgender was M or F instead of F or M and non-binary is neither or all of the above.
this post was submitted on 21 Feb 2024
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The prefix trans comes from Latin and means "On the far side of" wherever you're currently standing. So transportation takes you from one place to another.
To be transgender, your gender identity, expression, etc. Moves from one gender to another. So that could be in a binary way, from male to female, or vice versa.
Or it could mean you're going from male, to something in the middle, or otherwise not related to the traditional gender binary. You're still trans, you're just moving to a less expected part of the proverbial map.
The word transgender was pushed heavily by Leslie Feinberg, who was nonbinary. They also considered themselves a lesbian, and even transitioned to living as a man for many years in their youth.
I bring this up because I find that cis people, and even some trans people, want to put everything into nice neat little boxes, and queerness has just never worked that way. A term like LGBT implies that each of those letters is a discreet identity box, when in reality, all of these ideas and labels are a complex overlaping series of ven diagrams and umbrella terms.
Source: am Nonbinary and Bisexual.
Enby here, I wrestled with that question myself.
In the end I ended up embracing the "trans" label when I started living openly as non-binary because it suddenly felt like it fit. I'm not "cis", because I'm not the gender I was assigned at birth. I've transitioned, which is a trans thing.
From that perspective, I think any enby who was raised with binary gender expectations and subsequently come out of that closet can claim the label, and cis enbies would never have needed to because they'd always have been known as such.
What is enby?
Non-binary.
"NB" gets used for "Non-Black" in some contexts, so a lot of non-binary folks contract the term as "enby" rather than the acronym to minimize confusion.
Transgender means that the gender you are assigned at birth does not align with the gender you identify as. Generally speaking, non-binary people are considered part of the trans community, but some non-binary choose to not identify as trans.
Source: am non-binary and consider myself trans.
Non-binary, male presenting, male by birth. So I don't identify as trans generally.
I am multiple though. So some of me is more female, some more male, and you know, frogs will switch it up when they need to adapt to the environment.
Yes.
Here is a link to an interview with a non binary transgender person. (Timestamp around 32:00).
By the way, I recommend the whole video, I leaned a lot from it. Turn on captions tough if you'd like to watch it, it's partualy in Dutch, tough the linked section is English.
Edit: The Person interviewed starting at 11:00 Minutes also identifies as non binary trans.
Many come out as nonbinary before they come out as trans.
Nonbinary seems to have less a social stigma that I am sure many fins a safe avenue to exolore.
I’m non-binary. There is still a TON of social stigma around being non-binary. In fact, you’ve stated one of the things here: “non-binary people are just unwilling to fully transition”. I heard the same thing said about bisexual men back in the early 00s, that they were just gay men that refused to accept that fact.
I would say, very seriously, that a lot of especially AMAB non-binary folks face a ton of discrimination both from the cis community and parts of the trans community.
As for me, I’m agender. I’m very comfortable with my identity and have been for years. But I still get people asking “so when are you going to transition or just give it up” as if where I’m at now isn’t where I want to be.
Yeah, well, that's a fully invented quote that I never stated nor suggested, so... Cool.
Wait, did they commit suicide? Really weird turn in this story, hope they release more information.
At this time, any further comments on the cause of death are currently pending until toxicology results and other ancillary testing results are received,” the statement says. (Emphasis mine)
Benedict was able to walk out of the bathroom after the Feb. 7 fight but was taken to a hospital by their family and sent home that night. The next day, paramedics were dispatched to the home for a medical emergency and took Benedict to a hospital emergency room, where they later died, police said.
I really hope this doesn't turn out to be self-inflicted... Either that, or that's the angle the officials are hoping to imply in the meantime. This whole thing is so heartbreaking....
I keep seeing reports that Nex walked into the living room the next day, complaining of a headache, collapsed, and was rushed to the hospital where they died.
Everything about that, and their initial state, immediately after the fight, are classic head trauma symptoms. If what ultimately killed Nex was something like a subdural hematoma, then I guess you could argue that the death was not directly a result of the trauma? But the causal chain of events is incredibly obvious.
No subdural hematoma would certainly be a delayed but direct result of the altercation. It makes little sense, presumably the police is lying / covering it up.
Ah yeah, Oklahoma Police, the most trustworthy investigators
I wonder which officer's kid it was that perpetrated this
They are also all trained well as doctors.
That profile picture is evil
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While not impossible, sounds super sus. The beating they took was bad enough to go to the hospital but insufficient to exacerbate any underlying conditions?
FTA:
Although the cause of death has not been determined, Owasso police said in a statement preliminary autopsy results indicate the teen did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight.
The problem with this statement is that the coroner probably knows exactly what killed them (bleeding in the brain, for example.) and while the bleeding happened after the fact, was the direct result of that head injury, and there’s more steps to take to be able to say that. (Like ruling out additional injury or something. Maybe they injured themselves fainting the second time.)
The other problem is of course, ACAB.
They died because they were trans. They died just for existing and because they were different and people are afraid of that difference. I don't care what the exact biological mechanism was that killed them. I care that they died as a result of a beating (or because of the emotional trauma of that beating). That should never happen in America for anyone be they black, a woman, or an innocent gender nonconforming child like this.
We are headed to a dark place in American history if we don't fight for trans people and every minority right now.
They died because they were trans.
Agreed.
Though the coroner is concerned with excruciating exactitudes.
Another way to look at it, is, hypothetically some one poisoned someone else. rat poison is horrible. Among other things, it causes kidney failure, brain damage, internal bleeding, damage to other organs; commas. Awful stuff. The coroner is going to note all of that and draw conclusions that kidney failure is the cause of death (or whatever it was. Idunno.)
The coroner's report will say the final cause of death was kidney failure; but will also note the kidney failure itself was caused by rat poison. Actually in this scenario, it's probably something that will get amended because of how god-awful long it'll take to get toxicology reports back. But details.
The problem here is that the cops are running with it saying "OH IT WASN'T THE FIGHT!" when, that's probably not what the actual coroners report really says.