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Police in Oklahoma say a teen who died a day after an altercation at school did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago (2 children)

While not impossible, sounds super sus. The beating they took was bad enough to go to the hospital but insufficient to exacerbate any underlying conditions?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 8 months ago (2 children)

FTA:

Although the cause of death has not been determined, Owasso police said in a statement preliminary autopsy results indicate the teen did not die as a result of injuries sustained in the fight.

The problem with this statement is that the coroner probably knows exactly what killed them (bleeding in the brain, for example.) and while the bleeding happened after the fact, was the direct result of that head injury, and there’s more steps to take to be able to say that. (Like ruling out additional injury or something. Maybe they injured themselves fainting the second time.)

The other problem is of course, ACAB.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

They died because they were trans. They died just for existing and because they were different and people are afraid of that difference. I don't care what the exact biological mechanism was that killed them. I care that they died as a result of a beating (or because of the emotional trauma of that beating). That should never happen in America for anyone be they black, a woman, or an innocent gender nonconforming child like this.

We are headed to a dark place in American history if we don't fight for trans people and every minority right now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

They died because they were trans.

Agreed.

Though the coroner is concerned with excruciating exactitudes.

Another way to look at it, is, hypothetically some one poisoned someone else. rat poison is horrible. Among other things, it causes kidney failure, brain damage, internal bleeding, damage to other organs; commas. Awful stuff. The coroner is going to note all of that and draw conclusions that kidney failure is the cause of death (or whatever it was. Idunno.)

The coroner's report will say the final cause of death was kidney failure; but will also note the kidney failure itself was caused by rat poison. Actually in this scenario, it's probably something that will get amended because of how god-awful long it'll take to get toxicology reports back. But details.

The problem here is that the cops are running with it saying "OH IT WASN'T THE FIGHT!" when, that's probably not what the actual coroners report really says.