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What does it take in terms of assets, abilities, and/or income for you to consider them wealthy?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

My definition for myself to be rich is:

I have enough money that I can pay someone(s) yearly wage to manipulate my wealth into enough money to cover their salary and then some.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

For me, being wealthy would mean that if they never intentionally earned another penny for the rest of their life, that would not prevent them from doing anything that they wanted to do within reason.

For normal people that would mean between two and five million dollars in liquid assets available to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Depends entirely on where you live. In my part of the world, a decent 1800 SF house goes for around $1.5M.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Bezos is not wealthy. He just has a lot of money. I can't imagine he's found any real happiness with it. Sure a brand new Ferrari every week can buy you some happiness, but that's short lived.

The man has a serious mental illness that will not be addressed, because he has too much money and power for anyone to be allowed to tell him he's ill.

Billionaires are a danger to themselves and others. They should be admitted into a mental hospital against their will and they should be treated until they are cured.

This isn't even a "CEO bad" joke. I honestly believe it's a mentally disorder. Or maybe a specific mix of different disorders and unfortunate environments, circumstances and enablers.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

The tiers for me are: Doesn't worry about money -> Doesn't work -> Can afford a US senator to protect money. There are not titles for this kind of thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can cure rich with a weekend in Vegas, Wealth is terminal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Shit, for the obscenely rich, a green plumber can cure that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Living in London and working in the City so long really skewed my view on this. I guess because I worked with so many people earning six figures (and double that for household income) who were still very much "workers", were paying off the mortgage and hated commuting like anyone else. They didn't seem rich to me. Maybe if they sold up and moved out of town, sure, but just trying to live day to day they were counting the cost like an average person just up-scaled.

I feel like being able to live off passive income / interest AND living where you want is where "rich" starts for me. I could live off passive income now, in a basic place far from London but I'm not "rich". I can live pretty much where I want in London, but I'd have to continually work for it. Being able to do either of these things would put me in many people's "rich" bracket but for me it's when you can do both at the same time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

I consider anything above $500k to be "well off". Once you start to pass $10M, that's truly wealthy. $1B rhymes with obscene

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

In general I would say you're rich if you could stop working and live a life where you never want for anything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Rich - enough money to throw around and buy expensive things, but could lose everything with some poor decisions because they are spending their income instead of focusing on future wealth

Wealthy - expenses are easily paid using income from investments, easily accessible loans from property, or some other wealth based process. They don't need to actively work to do the same kinds of thing a rich person can do, and it is difficult for them to lose their wealth.

There are not any specific dollar amount thresholds, because it depends on spending and local cost of living. Wealthy people will make decisions that maintain enough wealth that will increase in value over time to beat inflation, rich people make decisions based on whether they can afford it right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anybody who doesn't have to work for the rest of their life because it's voluntary + they don't really have to look at the price tags of the things they want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So would that include retired people?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Few retired people I know can ignore the price tags off stuff...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

I think a lot of people retire with more than just social security to live on.

What if you have enough to live the rest of your life without working but can't do that if you buy a Ferrari?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We need a new word beyond rich. Everyone takes rich as a personal achievable goal.

We need a word for someone who has more money than is healthy. An easy to use word.

They are so rich they no longer know the cost of things. They can't relate to their neighbors. They no longer need to be a part of their community to survive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

That's a good one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

$5 million of spare money. Not net total wealth but actually $5 million investable dollars.

At that point, I'd you stick that money in a very conservative and safe brokerage account allocation, 5% return per year is $250k. That is a higher salary than almost anyone needs, meaning you can live very comfortably without working. You can't buy a yacht but you can be "done" and so can your children and their children if they aren't stupid.

If you choose to work, then you can just reinvest that $250k and let compound interest do its thing and get richer. Lucky you.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Personally, I'd consider myself rich. I live in Germany which is already among the richer countries in the world giving me access to an insane amount of infrastructure and opportunities. Furthermore, I work for an IT company and make more money than average and more than I need to satisfy my immediate needs (shelter, food, transportation etc.) and pay for my hobbies (mostly outdoor stuff). I might not be a millionaire and I can't just retire tomorrow but still I'm very aware of what a huge privilege I have compared to a vast part of humanity.

Personally, I think already my taxes are too low. Not to start about millionaires or billionaires.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

A wealthy man has no bills

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wealth, to me, is relative, measured by how far-reaching you can do things.

In the top tier, there are billionaires who can make decisions on the world stage, such as Elon Musk making satellites to help various countries or L Ron Hubbard buying a navy and putting places of worship in other countries.

In the middle tier, there are people who can make decisions on the national level, such as smaller business chains putting their businesses in various states.

In the low tier, there are people who can make decisions on the local level, such as buying management at a local school.

And then there are the rest of us, who have our whole empires concentrated on a single street.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

who have our whole empires concentrated on a single street.

Running an empire out of rental ain't very glamorous tho esp when you short on rent

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