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Nintendo, while aggressively litigious, do so to maintain the value and exclusivity of their IP.

Their games also never go on sale, and all sell really well over time, unlike many releases from other publishers.

The result is that Nintendo are able to release a solid cadence of high quality, first party games free of other forms of aggressive monetisation, maintaining the value of the games as art.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Didn't have Mario Cart strange Mercedes Tie-Ins? I think that your conclusion is solid, but money is money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Just a fact.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Pricing, yes. I don't think legally harassing youtubers reviewing their products or games helps them in any way. Even taking down fan projects doesn't help them. In the early 90s they sued blockbuster for renting games with manuals.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Came here to say this. Their pricing strategies definitely are justifiable but their petty lawsuits do little-to-nothing to protect their bottom line.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Upvoted because of actual unpopular opinion

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

This is "Darth Vader did nothing wrong" IRL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Tears was mid and not only did it ignore series lore, it ignored lore in a game it's a direct sequel to, that and both games feel like "design by intern" when it comes to puzzles and direction.

Odyssey was... O.K. Not as tight as a Galaxy, but also not as enjoyable as the usual Mario linearity for every objective as Nintendo has more control over every experience the player has.

Samus Returns was good fun. Dread.... Wasn't a Metroid game.

Splattoon and Pokemon both fall into the categories of games they could tweak slightly and rerelease for $70 under a new title, as they do.

Other than that, what do we have to talk about, Animal Crossing? The 3DS version was better and had more to do.

...and... Then there's Kirby. What do we even do with him!?

A+ work. They've never made a bad Kirby game. Bad and Kirby doesn't exist. It's like they could try and it would still be fun.

They did, it was canvas curse, and somehow it was still fun.

No one has any idea why.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

I think the reason is Nintendo views themselves as a toy company, not a video game or entertainment company. They don't do sales because that's not a thing for toys, you sell the production run and move on. You aggressively attack anyone using your toys in media, because it makes them more accessible without buying them. It's why their consoles are weird, have bright colors. It's also why there games are generally better, as you can't release a half finished toy and update it later.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

this is unpopular opinions, not wrong opinions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

releases essentially the same games for like 50 years

"quality"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You mean like Pokemon quality? Lmao

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And joycon wireless communication problems quality?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't get me started on joycon and pro controller stick drift quality

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Haha the stick drift thing, I must have a horse shoe up my ass. I have 2 pro controllers and 4 sets of joy cons and none drift.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nintendo as a publisher having high standards of what is allowed to be published onto their systems from 1st and 3rd party developers is what contributes most to quality of the games.

Devolver Digital is a publisher well known for publishing similarly very high quality games from 3rd party devs without being nearly as exceptionally litigious as Nintendo is going after everyone and everything that even remotely infringes on IP protections, however there is a point to be made that IP law in Japan functions very differently from the US and that plays some roll in how litigious Nintendo is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah it seems like if a kid says "It's a me Mario" while playing on a playground some Nintendo lawyer is going to be there to smack their family down with a 30 million dollar lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

This would only make sense if Nintendo's legal actions either actually prevented emulation or piracy of their games or recouped the lost revenue (lol).

But they don't you can still emulate the switch and still get games for it (which was never a grey area unlike emulators). You could do for most of it's lifetime. You could also pirate on original HW, sometimes without HW modification at all.

Emulators have existed and still exist for older nintendo systems and you can still get old nintendo games despite decades of nintendo's legal efforts, just like you can get pirated movies or music despite decades of legal efforts..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I support their prices but most of the lawsuits are bad.

The switch emulator scene did fly too close to the sun, since they were taking donations and pirating games on day 1. Most places wait until the console generation is over before getting to work on software preservation

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Has Nintendo been interesting in terms of art or gaming innovation in the past ten years? Apart from pokemon when I was a child, I only ever played some small party games at friends and I was never impressed by the games depth nor feeling the desire to get them at home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If we're referring to restricting who can use your IPs as a form of quality control, I can see where you're coming from. I fail to see how jealously guarding consumers from accessing games released years ago has anything to do with the quality of what they release today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah, like first party old games aren't going to lower your quality for some reason

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I like a lot of Nintendo's stuff, but I fail to see how anything lawyers do is in any way related to what their development studios do. You're gonna have to explain how you think these affect each other.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nintendo fucking people over doesn't increase the quality of their games in any way whatsoever. Feel free to try and come up with an argument that says otherwise 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Their games also never go on sale, and all sell really well over time

_free of other forms of aggressive monetisation_

My brother in christ Nintendo titles are of the most emulated and pirated of all game companies. They're constantly the point of ridicule by sitting on the largest troves of only illegally playable video games in history.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And yet used Nintendo games rarely ever go down in value, and eventually tend to go up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

they go down... on devices that dont sell well. its why systems like the gamecube and wiiu had players choice or nintendo select prints. for example, DK Tropical Freeze was 50$ on the WiiU, 20$ as a Nintendo Selects. the launch price of the game on the Switch was 60$. They do it because they can get away with it because of the common sentiment that the WiiU had no games.

nintendo is generosity is inversely related to the devices sucess.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does going after emulators protect the quality and value of their games?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The emulator in question was profiting off of using their proprietary encryption key.

You notice how they haven't gone after Dolphin?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

They've threatened Dolphin, but they know going after Dolphin won't be as easy as Yuzu. That's why they handed the guy who made Ryujinx a bag of money and asked him to shut down, because it would be a lot of trouble, like Dolphin.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh yeah, now that's a real unpopular opinion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Good thing I checked where this was posted, because damn that's got to be a real unpopular one...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

lmfao I’m over here sweating bullets trying not to downvote

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nintendo’s aggressive legal tactics and pricing strategy ultimately protect ~~the quality and value of their games.~~ the vast profits their corporate owners enjoy

1000006626 Quarterly profit in Yen
100 billion Yen is roughly 650 million USD

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

I can tell you don't play Pokemon .

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