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I am not doubting that you are an atheist because you 've read the bible (after all I wrote in my last post that I 've also read it) but because of your Christianity apologia.

As usual you answering a strawman and not me.

Rofl. I suggest your realize that even the Protestants don't actually care about what the Bible says, despite it being the basis of their attack on the Catholic Church (whose origins alongside the Orthodox predate the Bible and have consistently been against a Bible only interpretation of Christianity). In practice Christian churches have been railing against queer people since forever.

Thus it is you who should look at the history of Christianity in the last 2000 millennia and not just the read the Bible.

I 've read the fucking bible, it's morally reprehensible and indefensible if you have a shred of decency. It's understandable since it was written by people with completely different morals to us with an agenda to push.

Trump's base, his defense secretary, identify (strongly) as Christians, most people consider them Christians. A no true Scotman objection by you is meaningless pedantry. Even if we deny them the title of Christian they are still more dangerous than Gabbard's little and more mainstream. Actually them being more mainstream is the reason they are more dangerous than Gabbard's cult.

Are you really an atheist? If you are a Christian remember lying is a sin!

The left?

Believe it or not, I care about people other than my daughter and I don’t buy the “everything is at one level of bad and it can’t get better or worse” argument you seem to be making.

So more dishonesty and strawmen. Forget your daughter; Would your suggestion to queer people be different if Gabbard was not part of the Trump administration ? Flee if Gabbard is in, don't if it's just the good Christians?

The fact that you are apparently not aware that people convert to Christianity, including queer people, does not speak well of you.

So Fuck you it is.

Christianity's message still condemns queer people as sinners. I suppose part of the people who convert to Christianity also believe that.

Her genocidal cult is a member of the US government till Trump gets randomly annoyed by her and throws her out. He can't throw out Christian extremists. They will still persecute queer people.

Were you not planning to evacuate your daughter to safety before Gabbard was announced as a member of Trump's cabinet? Will you reconsider if she is not appointed nor any other cult member and Trump's cabinet is composed solely of Christians? Of course not, you are just trying to win an argument.

Biden is a Christian and does not hate queer people, we 've already established that not all Christians hate queer people. Yet others are Christians and do hate queer people. That's because most people are multi-faceted and are influenced by various factors. Perhaps Christianity is a neutral influence on hating queer people or perhaps Christianity condemns queer people to hell.

Trump is not a 'genuine' Christian, his base however is mostly fundamentalist Christians and he panders to them. Most of his appointments are fundamentalist Christians, they are the danger. Most of them lean more into their religion than Biden I would argue.

Finally for your bullshit “queer Christians hate queer people” strawman; Do you deny that queer people born into religious Christian household, indoctrinated into a religion telling them that are sinners and will go to hell face additional psychological pressure driving some of them to hurt themselves? Fuck you if you do.

But you are the ultimate showcase of why Christianity is so much dangerous. An atheist (allegedly) claiming to have a queer daughter defending it. While it condemns your child to hell.

I am not missing the point, you are, by miles.

That cult is less dangerous than Christianity. You don't fear them, you fear an extremely anti-queer government. That government will take power due to Christianity's influence. Those cultist might be invited along for the ride.

But sure, she’s not dangerous at all. Not compared to 10 out of 10 Christians, all of whom hate queer people, including the Christians who are themselves queer.

Not, all Christians hate queer people. It's irrelevant if they do not seriously try to stop the ones that do from promoting hate. Which most Christian denominations officially do, for most of them any queerness is a sin. Which explains why even non hateful Christians will not seriously challenge the more extreme ones.

As for queer people who identify as Christians, that's not an argument in your favor, for Christianity being less dangerous. Christianity has probably driven more queer people to suicide for not being "good" Christians than this cult could even dream of hurting. It gets people to run conversion camps and parents to send their own children there. It probably also keeps good people who would otherwise help queer people from helping.

So yeah Christianity is far more dangerous than some nobodies.

Dude there are certainly more Americans that would happily march queer people into gas chambers and don't make a secret about it while being Christian.

There already are "conversion" camps run by Christians for queer children. They are horrendous.

Were hatred against queer people not normalized by Christianity her cult would be unable to use her to persecute them.

Also, some Christian denominations are not troubled by someone being a Nazi.

Not to defend those nutjobs but 'religion' (aka cults that reached critical mass) are far more dangerous, whether Catholicism or mainstream US Protestantism.

Too bad the actual fascist Americans who elected Trump are still with you. It's always someone else's fault not America's.

It's required to start getting security briefings before becoming president. A requirement to become president would be in the constitution, not a law.

GPDR does not have any site blocking provisions, just fines.

A lot of small US websites (typically regional media) choose to not show pages to EU IPs but they are not blocked.