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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Revolting and overthrowing a government is against the law...so all the mother fuckers that signed that paper with Hancock.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

My favorite example is Pretty Boy Floyd.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Can't remember his name, but the right love to fawn over the guy who built "killdozer"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Bonnie and Clyde! Billy the Kid! I haven't yet met the cute got girl who doesn't have a list of favorite serial killers!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

John Dillinger had his fans too. I recall going to a wax museum in Indiana dedicated to him. There was a display with an electric chair in it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Who says this and what makes them think this phenomenon is exclusive to the US?

Che Guevara, Julius Ceasar and Galileo are household names globally and martyrdom is--in the words of religious leaders everywhere--"a whole thing, y'know"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Jesse James.

Billy the Kid.

Jeffery Dahmer.

Charles Manson.

Al Capone.

Baby Face Nelson.

And many, many more.

Out of all these, though, the only one I have seen still be idolized in some capacity is Dahmer. Women seem to love him, despite the fact he was gay. And a cannibal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

To that extent, Trump

I still think that guy needs to go fuck off a cliff, but he fits the premise right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Bonnie and Clyde

also the most prominent idolized today isn't Dahmer; it's the guy who just got elected for president

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do people really idolize dahmer?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Julian Assange, Edward Snowden...

I think it comes from America's roots -- America was founded on liberty and freedom, and to some extent, questioning authority, and I think since then it's been somewhat cyclical with socioeconomic changes.

It's also part of the American mythos that is perpetuated in film and music. We have superheroes like Batman, Spider-Man, Green Arrow, western heroes like Zorro and the Lone Ranger, movies like Star Wars, The Hunger Games, Bonnie & Clyde, shows like Mr. Robot...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

The entire eastern genre

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well classic rap.

Today's rap doesn't have as much bragging and flexing. Not to say it doesn't happen, it's just not as significant as classic rap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Today's rap doesn't have as much bragging and flexing

What rap are you listening to🤨? And what do you define as classic rap?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah today's rap definitely has bragging and flexing, it's just sort of flanderized from "I'm a thug who is tough, fight hard to get what I've got, look at me now" to "I've got money, I get women, I get fucked up"

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Is it just america? robin hood. guy fawkes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Brazil has Lampião and Padre Ciço. ... Though Ciço is less 'criminal' and more 'heretic'. He's considered a saint by many nevertheless.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ned Kelly is an Australian icon, primarily known for an armoured shoot out with the cops.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Guy Fawkes isn't idolised, the festival is about burning him alive and even if you don't agree with that his reasons for doing what he did were shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah. I guess V for vendetta made me think it was celebrating him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

That was an alternate history where he was successful and celebrated.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

How is Jesse James not at the top of this comment section?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Billy the Kid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Does Jack Sparrow count?

I think Rosa Parks and the Boston Tea Party-goers can be counted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Slightly off topic but there was an escaped monkey around and people would never report it until they were sure it was gone, they didn't want it caught.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/10/25/163620501/floridas-mystery-monkey-captured-after-three-years-on-the-lam

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