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If becoming a millionaire/billionaire is an actual goal for some people, no wonder this planet is fucked.
I'd like to be a millionaire, but that is an method to achieve another goal, not the goal itself.
I'd like to vertically farm algae on an industrial scale as an atmospheric carbon sink, and additionally see if there is any way to do so profitably while remaining carbon negative. 1 million dollars would probably be enough to construct a small facility and hire the staff and experts I would need to figure this out.
"Millionare/billionaire" as an identity should be an insult.
Anybody with an industrial mindset will bare minimum want to take any large amount of liquid asset and turn it into production. Build and improve factories, fund research, improve living conditions near your operations. Having money acruing interest can be part of that, but should not be your primary revenue stream.
Nobody wants to enter professions that require hard work because it pays pittance relative to popular entertainers, and traditional milestone purchases have become moving targets, so why not gamble it all?
You don't see the ultra rich getting fancy coffee from your local barista.
They pay assistants to do that for them.
which is honestly fucking sad, you bet your ass i'd be buying the most expensive shit from the local coffee shop if i had a billion dollars
It's one coffee, Michael, how much can it cost? $100?
I go out for a chai latte sometimes and bring my daughter with me to get a smoothie. Fuck people who think everyone else should cut back on this shit. Just because you're not wealthy doesn't mean you don't deserve the occasional nice treat to make your life a little less dismal.
I don't know avout deserving, cutting back is just something many do to make ends meet. If you have the money for tea and smoothies then I don't see what the issue for anyone would be.
You can cut back to make ends meet, which we do, and still get the occasional thing to make your life not shit 100% of the time. Would we do better financially if we didn't do the occasional thing to make us happy? Sure. Why though?
Spending money doesn't make me happy. It might be the good coffee or spending time with my friends in a cafe that was the thing making me happy. So for me it's not a fight about doing things that make me happy vs not. I usually try to find another way to be happy, like buying good coffee to make at home and so on for things I try to cut back from.
Would we do better financially if we didn't do the occasional thing to make us happy? Sure. Why though?
That's what I'm wondering too. If you can afford those things and they make you happy, who thinks you don't deserve them or thinks you shouldn't do them?
Being a millionaire is just saving a portion of income for 30 years and you can easily hit a net worth of a few million dollars.
Being a billionaire requires some level of absurdly lucky success, fraud, exploitation, and rich parents.
Bring able to save a significant portion of your income more than the US poverty line for 30 years without some black swan life event happening to drain it also partly depends on being lucky or/and not having children. The median US household makes plenty to become millionaires for maintainkng a reasonable QoL if there aren't any such black swan events or children involved.
For my mom, it was a custody battle for children that initially wiped her life savings. She since has often worked 100 hours weeks at a job that pays above average for a blue collar job to make enough to back up to retire (plus happens to have worked at the same company long enough to get a pension, something they phased out for anyone less senior than her), but that's not something anyone should be expected to do be able to retire, so I'm not quick to judge people for not having accumulated money.
But a lot of people waste money on convenience in ways that definitely add up cumulatively over the decades. $5/day adds up to $150k after adjusting for inflation over 30 years. A $10/month subscription is $10k over 30 years. Reducing costs like that in a few places can cumulatively get you to at least theoretically being on track to be a millionaire.
The QoL aspect is extremely important though. If I can't have one $10/mo subscription... what's the point of being a millionaire in some hypothetical future if I spend my prime years depraved and depressed?
Sure, but at the median income in the US, you don't need to be depraved or depressed. At least not for monetary reasons. I'm not saying you need have to cut all subscriptions. A lot of people have much more than one reoccurring charges or spending habits that could either be reduced or cut completely with little to no effect on QoL.
Right, but if you stop buying coffee every single day, even a cheap cup, that's like $30-100 saved per month or $1200 or more in a year. That's not nothing. That dread you get around the holidays of "will I have enough money to buy presents?", well, now you can buy presents.
For a sense of proportion, in a housing market where house prices go up 5% a year, a $200k house (which nowadays is cheap), goes up $10k in a year.
So that "trick" barelly slows down the rate at which you're getting further behind on your chance of getting your own place to live, even a cheap on in a moderatelly growing market.
Such barebones saving only works if you're really really close to being able to afford a house, otherwise you're just making your life a bit more miserable for no actual gain as the extra savings are just going to be sucked out in paying for just about anything where realestate costs have an impact (so, not just somthing quite directly affected like your rent, but also pretty much all products and services bought from stores and companies who rent their space).
People seriously buy coffees every day? I like coffee, and I have enough disposable income to buy coffees often outside, but honestly never do it. Maybe it's because I grew up poor but it seems an awfully wastefuk habit. I have coffee at home before work, or in the office (free).
I love going out for coffee, especially now that my favorite coffee place started using mugs instead of cardboard plastic coated cups.
I get to mix a latte machiato with a double espresso, those mugs are huge.
Disclaimer: it's my workplace and the coffee is free.
A lot of gas stations sell refill mugs that people use every day. I admit I did do a daily coffee run to a gas station nearby when I worked my last job, but it was because they literally never washed the coffee pot or emptied it out from the day before and it literally had grease all over it. Yeah, it did end up costing me money, but fuck me if I was going to drink that shit. And there was no way to get through that job without a lot of caffeine.
Meh, I'm a M-F daily coffee buyer here. My husband will only drink coffee if we're at breakfast somewhere, and it's just him and I at the house.
I drink plain black gas station coffee though, so my costs are likely negligible to others who prefer more..."fancy" varieties. I pay $1.16 for 20 Oz.
Dutch Bros is giving Starbucks a run for their money here in Texas. Both franchises are PACKED every time I drive past, regardless of time of day. Just...insane drive thru lines. Never had DBs, but I've heard it's decent.
wastefuk
If that was a typo, let it retroactively not be. Wastefuk is a great word, especially how you used it, which I read as adjectivizing 'the habits of a Wastefuk.'
Don't be a wastefuk, everyone. Make your coffee at home. But not with k cups.
It's extremely wasteful. In college I was spending a lot on coffee, but as an adult who actually has to worry about budgeting, it's a poverty trap. North America runs on convenience items.
I don't think it's because you grew up poor. It's because why would you buy coffee everyday?
I buy coffee almost everytime I'm at an airport or a train station, but that's like... once every two months? If I would commute by train, I wouldn't buy coffee everytime I'm at the train station, I would just wait until I'm in the office to grab a cup.
But I did buy a coffee daily, when I was in university. There was no way to get a coffee besides buying one, so I bought one. So I think thats the main thing about buying daily, necessity. Some companies only have paid machines, so you buy a coffee daily when at work. In school or university you don't have a coffee machine available, so you buy one daily.
In uni we have 30 cent coffee machines and it was the only way to keep my brain going.
that's very nice, we got substituted coffee as well but it was still 1,50 per cup
I don't drink coffee, I don't like avocado, and I don't buy random junk. What gives?
You could try having a trust fund...
Have you tried supplementing your income with fraud?
Actually no, I haven't, but I might give it a shot though. Any tips?
Ask your parents for a small loan of a million dollars