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While I do have sympathy with your argument, I also have two counter points:
Autism isn't considered "wholesome," it is the subject of mockery and common insult, replacing "retard."
As someone with autism, people with the personality disorders you describe often try to target us for abuse. Fortunately for me, I was raised in an environment that I have a hard shell and fight back, but many aren't so lucky.
"Autism isn’t considered “wholesome,” it is the subject of mockery and common insult, replacing “retard.”
Sometimes, it's seen in a lot of ways. Using "autism" as an insult isn't as common as it used to be. Nowadays people see autism as the "quirky" and "odd" condition.
"As someone with autism, people with the personality disorders you describe often try to target us for abuse."
Don't get me wrong cluster B personality disorders are awful but we shouldn't demonize everyone who has them and assume everyone with a cluster B personality disorder is a monster.
"Fortunately for me, I was raised in an environment that I have a hard shell and fight back, but many aren’t so lucky."
Hmm, ok. I was raised like that too.
This reminds me of a reddit thread I saw years ago that talked about pedophilia and how there are anonymous groups for people who realize that it's wrong and want to be "cured"
But they have to hide and use complete anonymity, else their lives would be ruined
They're people suffering from, in my opinion, a mental illness but cannot get help, and I find it quite tragic, actually
I agree with the last part of your post but I don't like you comparing people who have cluster B personality disorders with pedophiles.
It was a comparable problem, not a comparable affliction, but I hear you. Part of why the world is so fucked up right now, in my opinion, is because we are so easily fixated on the subjects rather than the subject matter and it often derails the actual discussions we need to have. Not saying your wrong, just saying that kind of dissemination has been the bane of democracy lately. At least left leaning politics. They don't have that messaging problem on the right.
The whole point of my thread was about how bad ableism is and you respond by comparing those with cluster B personality disorders to the worst thing there is. People with personality disorders are just people with a illness that can be helped but pedophiles are just irredeemable and pure evil. All the hate directed at them is completely warranted.
Actually I think folks with ASPD are the worst, trash that should be discarded from society. /s
I think you're confusing folks who have pedophilia with folks who act on it.
You're probably right.
I do wanna say that as someone with autism, people do not treat it as wholesome in relationships. It's definitely given a bit of leeway but in the grant scheme of things people will respect the idea of autism, but no one actually cares about what I deal with on a day-to-day basis and it sucks because people still get mad at you when they inevitably don't realize a lot of things happen because of it.
I just have to assume a lot of people get used to the idea of mental disabilities, but they can not deal with them in person.
I see where your coming from. People think of autism as either the the wholesome smart kid syndrome or the annoying marriage ruiner syndrome. The way our society looks at mental health is that it's either absolutely glorified or absolutely demonised and autism is unique as it's seen as both.
I completely understand what your talking about. I have NPD/HPD myself and it's never sat right with me that people who advocate for better understanding of mental health completely change when it comes to things that aren't seen as something to be pitied like autism.
You also see it with things like schizophrenia or substance abuse.