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Israel is the most anti-Jewish state since Nazi Germany, and Palestinians are semitic.
Nope, fuck off.
It's my understanding that it is occurring naturally on its own, anyways?
A few reporting I've heard on Israel describes a state filled with dual-citizenship inhabitants that are used to first-world standard and would rather leave the country than deal with inconveniences. I oversimplify here, but who really wants to live in a genocidal state? Whether you're on board or not with the genocide, it's still a massive point of friction with neighbors.
Seems unlikely you'll get more than half of people leaving "naturally." Or at least, "naturally" is going to look more and more like "coerced" over the years if progress is made.
There's a significant issue of younger Israelis emigrating from Israel due to that friction, though I don't know the exact numbers.
It's a few tens of thousands, not a huge number, but significant for a small country. Also not necessarily younger ones. Families are moving out too. Greece is the first destination at the moment.
Nuance and subtlety? Not on my lemmy!
Unfortunately, the term "antisemitic" no longer has any kind of fixed meaning. I wish that weren't true, and I think it's a combination of forces that decided to misuse the word for several decades, that have now led to it being meaningless.
And you might be tempted to tell me what you think it means, and maybe I could agree with you, but when I turn on the TV tomorrow someone else will be using it in a totally different way that's inconsistent. Actually I'm kidding. I don't have a TV.
Words that people misuse are still meaningful when the reader and writer both understand the same meaning. I expect you understand OP perfectly well.
While it is a lunatic statement, it isn't antisemitic. It's only antisemitic if it applies to jewish Palestinians that have a connection to the land. The jewish Israelis of European descent aren't connected to the land. Thus, this isn't antisemitic. But I do agree that it is a lunatic statement anyway.
EDIT: What I'm trying to say is that this is a nationalist stance not an antisemitic one. Those expecting all Israelis to leave like that aren't doing so because they're jews but because they're settlers. This is however, if you lack the reading comprehension, a position I haven't even claimed to support, but on the contrary, I even condemned it. What I am doing here is pointing out that not everything that relates to Israel has to boil down to antisemitism. That's a braindead position
I live in North America, and I have European descent, and I have a connection to the land. I can trace my family back 13 generations in North America. But even if I could not, being born somewhere gives you a connection to the land. Unless you're Trump, I daresay this is a widely-agreed-on perspective. I don't think anyone should have to be kicked out of the place they were born.
While it is a lunatic statement, it isn’t antisemitic. It’s only antisemitic if it applies to jewish Palestinians that have a connection to the land. The jewish Israelis of European descent aren’t connected to the land. Thus, this isn’t antisemitic. But I do agree that it is a lunatic statement anyway.
Oh my fucking God, when did leftism become Blut und Boden nationalism?
Jewish people and groups around the world need to issue strong rejection of Israel's actions.
If they don't, i'm very concerned that Israel's crimes will fall back on them in the future.
Just leave the region alone for fucks sake. "Oh I think we could just make palestine secular and it would solve the issue," "oh lets unite israel and palestine into one state" do nobody hear themselves??
So many people on the left for whom jew = Zionist = fascist Israeli. It plays right in the hand of all the actual right-wingers and fascists supporting Israel. Appalling and stupid.
Isn't that the stance of Israel as well? They claim to be the representatives of all jewish people.
So lefties should align their position on the fascist government of Israel ? 🤔