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I’m gonna be honest, I’m not asking for a friend, I’m asking for myself. Our daughter (24) married this man (65) in September. She herself stated money was the main reason, and he knows it but it doesn’t bother him. Both my husband & I are having a very hard time getting used to the idea.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago

I’d work on processing my feelings and sorting them into helpful to express, necessary to express, and unhelpful and unnecessary to express

Do you trust your daughter’s ethics and willingness to prioritize her happiness? If not that should be your concern, otherwise learning to trust her to leave if anything goes as wrong as it likely will is something to focus on.

Regardless of everything, therapy is probably a good call for you. It’s not just for the mentally ill, it’s also a resource to help deal with it when life throws you a curveball.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Adult people are entitled to make their own decisions under the FAFO maxim.

Your opinion on it is just that, an opinion. As far as idiotic shit to do, this is mid tier. You still got your daughter etc. focus on that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Idiotic? This is a low tier mistake. Everyone wins regardless. The only thing she loses is the ability to marry someone her age and enjoy youthful things together with them. Just because she’s married doesn’t mean she can’t go off on her own to have fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

City girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man, and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace go in style

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You are assuming there won't be a negative externality resulting from this behavior, I give you 99% chance there will be issues.

Half the people can't maintain "normal" marriage with proper "feels" lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

In that case, at worst she walks from the marriage with nothing more than she entered into it with. Mundane daily issues are going to hit all relationships, so I don’t think that’s something to worry about. Conservatively, he divorces her and she walks with half of the investment income he accrued during the marriage. At best, she walks with half. That doesn’t take into consideration that she’ll have most certainly gotten (or shared) a car, a house, and food paid for the duration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

This is very transaction approach, I don';t think human relationships work like this even in pure business situations tbh

Maybe that's just me.

Every relationship had a mental cost, some good and so not so good.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 hours ago

As long as both parties acknowledge what kind of relationship it is, and she gets what she wants out of it, I think I would be able to accept it. Doesn't mean I would like it, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

It may become complicated if some day she does fall in love and if it's with someone else. She may be faced with hard choices if this happens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with many people here that it's up to her. It's her life and she's going to live it how she wants. How you feel about it doesn't matter. I think what she's doing is morally objectionable because it turns a relationship that should be about caring and mutual affection and all those flowery concepts and turns it into a financial transaction. He gets companionship and sex and she gets money and not having to work (I assume). But once again, this is her decision.

How do you manage this? You either accept that or you don't. You get to determine if you want to be part of her life or not. Perhaps this is too much for you. Perhaps not. But your only options are to accept the arrangement or not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure where morality comes into the whys of getting married. Historically, women have married for things other than love, when they had a choice at all. If they maintain fidelity and keep their agreements with each other, how is this any less immoral than marrying for love?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I would hope that love-based marriages are what we all aspire to. At least in my belief it is. I'm not telling people what they can't do with their lives. There are plenty of things I disapprove of, but I don't go around berating people for not living as I would like them to.

The OP sounded like they didn't like this kind of arrangement for children, possibly for the same reason that I don't like it. So I was letting them know that I agree and sympathize but at the end of the day their child is an adult and can do whatever they want. It is the parents' decision with how they will react to things they don't like their daughter doing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

I can agree with all of that, and it's what I hope for for everyone. I just don't think having other priorities is necessarily immoral, although it certainly can be.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My cynical view on this situation is the pros are 1) she's fast-tracking home ownership for a generation that generally expects to not own homes, 2) she's securing financial stability during the traditionally least financially stable era of adult life, 3) working as a paid live-in caregiver pays significantly little comparatively and it is damn hard work, 4) she may have plans on marrying for love later. She's still maturing, so having a starter marriage that's lucrative may not be a totally terrible idea.

Honestly at the end of the day, you want her to be happy, right? If she's walked into this with eyes wide open, considered all the cons and still found the arrangement preferable, is it really the end of the world? What would your feelings be if she had chosen some other non traditional relationship?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah in the old world where a little elbow grease was all you needed to afford a house, this would have been a coward's move and creepy as hell.

Now, it beats the pants off of most jobs. Which is all the evidence you need of how much of a failure society has become. This situation should be awful, but it's pretty nifty by comparison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

This is the best comment ^

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

If they're cool, they're cool.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Be sure to wring the old fart dry

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

mmmm, wet farts, sharts if you will

[–] [email protected] 54 points 14 hours ago

She's not underage and the husband knows the deal. I would make sure she has a back up (a man is not a plan). Make sure she has a job/career to fall back on, and if she's stay-at-home, see if she gets any kind of money from her husband on a regular basis that she can put into her own savings. Other than that? Hopefully the wedding was bomb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

You'll both have lots of time to get used to the idea. Sorry to hear that your daughter turned into a gold digger marrying out of financial convinence instead of love. Its kind of unsavory and understandable why its causing some cognitive dissonance. But well thats the kind of thing our society incentivises and she's an adult who can make her own choices. Its hard to judge too hard. Hope the husband is alright personality wise and even if this is dark to say, you can take some solice in that statistically speaking its probably not going to last too long and she will probably inherit some assets. If it all burns down it will be a hard but good lesson in not being with people just to extract value out of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

a gold digger

the husband

Why use a perjorative for her and not him?

Surely the 65 year old marrying a 24 year old deserves exactly as much shame as she does. Do you think his motives are any less selfish than hers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't know gold digger was perojatorive, I thought it was just the common name given for that kind of behavior.

Human beings at base are emotionally complex, greedy, self- interested horny apes driven by comfort and convinence. Theres no shame in acknowledging less virtuous parts of our animalistic nature and addressing their manifestions of behavior in ourselves and others honestly.

Does it suck that some people are materialistic? Yes, but I dont shame them for it. That comes from part instinctual nature and part of social conditioning for hierarchical society. Theres plenty of cultures where marriage for political and financial power plays is completely publically normalized. Just not the one where I or presumably OP come from.

I agree that a 65 year old person being with a 25 year old person introduces a yuck factor but an conventionally named 'prerogative' for that behavior doesn't come to mind especially not when I wrote the comment. Would 'Youth-digger' be appropriate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

"Gold digger" has been a pejorative for a long, long time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Good for you kiddo. Not that I have kids, but hey if it gets ya ahead and/or happy, go for it. As long as said kid is a consenting adult. Otherwise it's cop time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Based on all the replies this seems both are getting what they want out of it, so I don't see an issue. Not every marriage needs to be a love match, but it does seem like there is some of that, so even better.

I do understand your moral reservations as it seems a bit cynical, but in the end it's her life and she and any kids they might have are basically set for life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago

how do you manage?

I'm relatively conservative, so probably a blend of bonds and market tracking index funds.

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