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NGL, not asking for a friend. Given the current trends in US politics, it seems prudent to at least look into it.

Most of the online content on the topic seems to be by immigration attorneys hustling ultra rich people. I'm not ultra rich. I have a job in tech, could work remotely, also have enough assets to not desperately need money if the cost of living were low enough.

I am a native English speaker, fluent enough in Spanish to survive in a Spanish speaking country. I am old, male, cis, hetero, basically asexual at this point. I am outgoing, comfortable among strangers.

What's good and bad about where you live? Would it be OK for a outsider, newcomer?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brazil is a Bad Idea®.

  • There's a reasonable chance that a Trump-like clown wins in 2026. Probably a Bolsonaro ally, or even a relative (there have been talks about his wife running for presidency).
  • Repeat with me the Latin American mantra: Nothing Fucking Works®.
  • Ask Haitians and Venezuelans how they're treated.
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You hit the nail on the head when you said "expats or exiles"

They're immigrants, and it's only Brits and Yanks that refuse to admit it

I'm an immigrant. Learn the fucking language yous cunts. Respect the country's mindset. Pay your fucking taxes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Given that my country is Russia and you are probably trying to escape an authoritarian regime, you may consider another destination.

But still, I think Americans are generally welcome. People can make lighthearted jokes about it and be surprised, but you'll be a welcome guest after all. Bonus points if you say American government, and particularly Department of State, is shit :D

Language barrier might be an issue - most Russians above ~35 have very poor English skills, and younger folks mostly have it on A2-B2 level.

Oh, and the country is sanctioned to hell, so sending money in and out is an additional hurdle. But if you retain your American credit card, you'll be alright and at least able to make payments outside the country.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Heidelberg, Germany. This town is already more American than some towns in America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I live in CA and I'm diabetic. If it gets to the point where I get denied medical insurance because I have a preexisting condition then I might have to bail.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

tip: bail before it's an issue

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

Weird way to talk about immigrants

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Wanna move and work remotely for your current company I guess? Why should we welcome you instead of someone who wants to come here to fill up a vacant position that we don't have workforce for?

You can't have your cake and eat it too just because you're angry that the wrong guy got elected. There are people around the world getting bombed, they're the people who need to get out of their country, not a tech bro that could just move to a State that reliably elected Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Welcome to EU! Prepare for a cultural shift:

Considering that everyone on lemmy is 30+ communist tech worker, it's probably a welcome change

Speaking more specifically about Poland, depending on how you measure, we might have the most rapidly secularizing society in the world Some Americans (catholic fundamentalists) seem to think that you can just barge in, snatch a tradwife and plot of land and live like it's 50s, but these people are straight up delusional. Introducing ban on abortion, for example, erased full quarter of support for the party that did it (40% ish to 30% ish overnight) and caused largest protests since dissolution of Soviet Union. There are conservative women, but these tend to be 60+

In tech job market specifically, the bubble has ended (like everywhere else i guess), but if you're a senior or able to keep your current job you'll be fine (not sure how you'd get residence permit then). You'd need to lean Polish as a practical matter, because while lots of people do speak decent English, many don't (esp. 50+ and in small towns) and many official matters can be done in Polish only. Like everywhere else, there's division between more conservative rural areas and more liberal large cities; no one wants to live in the former, even locals, and so most of foreigners live in Warsaw (or Kraków, or Wrocław). It sounds like you'd blend in right away in one of these places. While property prices and rent went up since start of the plague, it's not as crushingly bad as in, say, Berlin or Rotterdam. Random benefits include ability to pirate absolutely everything without VPN with no consequences and ability to use complaint as a conversation starter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s really funny - my very Catholic mom is going to Poland next year with some church group and the priest, lol…I apologize for her in advance!

I’ve always wanted to visit Poland and still hope I can, one day. But no weird Catholic shit!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm guessing she's going to Częstochowa?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Is that the church in the salt mine? That’s the only place she’s mentioned so far, but I don’t recall the name or if she even said it, really. She may have just read about it and not known how it was pronounced.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

I want to say on that cultural shift, having lived my entire life in the dark blue sections of the US... that would be such a freaking welcome change.

Also fucking shocked that Kansas ISN'T dark blue.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Working with a few of them. One moved here around 20 years ago, and one moved here 2 years ago. They're both doing fine. The rest I don't know very well.

Don't bring your politics over here, though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Okay I've read about three comments and I'm gonna need someone to explain the connotation behind the word "expat" because the only definition I can find is "Someone who resides outside their country of origin."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Very online folks word lawyering to the n-th degree. Language shifts and has different meanings in different countries.

To play along, I've heard "expat" to refer to someone on a work appointment with a fixed timeline, say, someone who works for Microsoft being sent to France for 2 years. I've heard many Americans say "I'm immigrating to" to mean they are going through permeant resident or citizen pathways with the host country.

Others have a different read of the word, but as long as you aren't a jerk wherever you are going, it won't ever come up

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

The way I've seen it, it appears to primarily be used by the various British and former British colonies, including the US. For these groups, anyone from outside the colonies living in "our" territory is an immigrant (who is certainly a lower class!). However, if we choose to reside in another country, we are not immigrants, we are "expats".

Not everyone uses this term, but those that do frequently congregate in English speaking enclaves and make no attempt to integrate into their new home. They often see the locals as a sort of servant class, particularly because they probably came with enough money or income to make them wealthy by local standards.

As you might imagine, people with this attitude are probably not very popular with locals.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Americans view the terms immigrant and immigration negatively

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Term is British origin... But yeah now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Here in Brazil anything and anyone from outside (except neighbors and Chinese products) is automatically seen as better. South of the tropic is very chill and safe, you would be quite fine; north of the tropic starts getting very dangerous, but there are still some safe places in larger cities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ireland is full of tech jobs that pay well and that's the only way to live well here right now since basics are so expensive. Housing is a big issue, but that's not just our problem. Come on over, you'd be welcomed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would absolutely love to be in Ireland! Well, I mostly just want to sit and listen to the elderly talk about the days before they went to shit.

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