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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This has always kind of confused me. I remember back a few years ago on Reddit seeing posts about The kind of stuff that would be on craigslist and a lot of it was straight white men saying they are straight but asking for head or oral sex, and it really made me scratch my head. Like, how can you be completely straight but you want to have sex with someone else of the same gender? It was baffling honestly

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Straight, in this situation, is code for too conservative to admit to having sex with men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Thank you for your service, gay men. o7

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I hate trumpers and all, but this is gonna lead to suicides and is essentially just outing gay people to cause them harm, even bodily harm. I was raised to think that was wrong, but I guess if it's done by you it's ok?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Sucks that being anything other than straight is a health risk for large segments of the population.

That being said, enabling or fostering that same risk isn’t in their best interest. If they’re unable to be the change they want to see in the world, then who do they expect to stand up for them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, but republican gay people. So only gay people who support things like Project 2025, which basically wants to eradicate the entire concept of homosexuality.

As far as I understood it at least

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Post said "conservative" which is a bit broad. There are lots of conservative straight men and women who aren't homophobic or against LGBTQ people. Republican is less broad. Far right now specific and so on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, I agree it is broad, yeah.

But, like... we'll see if there's gonna be any republicans trying to distance themselves from Trump. There were lots who endorsed Harris and who refused to endorse Trump, but not endorsing Trump just isn't enough with this level of threat to democracy, imo.

“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” ― Desmond Tutu

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I’m personally a fan of the MLK Jr quote, along the same lines:

In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Just do what I do.

Step one be bicurious

Step two enable "everyone" as love interests on your dating apps

Step 3 match with cops, servicemen and tons of Latin men ( Latin men like me idk why)

Step 4 get my hole wrecked by said matches due to bi curious

Step 5.... profit???? Idk i can't really move cuz wrecked hole

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You forgot the record-for-blackmail part

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh honey trust me there were plenty of black males, i don't discriminate 😘

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yet you start mentioning race when the word "black" is used.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ya know what bye bye forever. One look at your profile shows you consume nothing but the worst of the worst types of news and media. You need help.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 days ago

Lmao. People nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Aw I'm sorry you can't take a joke. Kindly fuck off now plz while the adults laugh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

This made me lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Thank you for your (buttholes) service.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

I'll never understand why people use conservatives for anything but pump and dumps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

If a closeted person is passing laws, making policy, or using their platform to the LGBTQIA+ community, then outing is self-defense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Careful now. Outing people against their will is how you get Peter Thiel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I can assure you that Mr. Thiel has always been a horrible person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

TIL Thiel is gay. Yay for representation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was already a piece of shit before he was outed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

True, but I don't think he was "weaponize Hulk Hogan" level.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Conservative forums are talking about rounding up immigrants, letting women die in clinics and stripping people of their rights and dismantling Democracy.

Here on the "left" lemmy, we're arguing whether calling out hypocrites is a step too far we've got to be respectful after all!

This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages....

Oh I'm sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don't want to offend people identifying as cages!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is why the left sucks as organising and actually voting for change in unison. A simple thing as outing assholes starts a 10h discussion, meanwhile on the right they are building cages…

"The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence."

— Charles Bukowski

Oh I’m sorry, not cages, enclosures without exists, we don’t want to offend people identifying as cages!

This made me think of this 20s clip from Thor: Ragnarok.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Sounds like Ole Chuck was paraphrasing possibly my favorite poem which is also totally appropriate for our times. That is "The Second Coming".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not gay, but the idea of outing ANYONE in the LGBTQIA+ community has long been a cardinal sin, enough so that it destroys careers and forces them to be almost globally shunned. I would imagine that for many there is a deep-set conflict between outing someone that has wronged them, and not outing someone that would likely want to be accepted elsewhere where they don't need to pretend to be something they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

The problem with outing someone is that it risks subjecting them to discrimination and bigotry by homophobic assholes. Shunning it as a cardinal sin is a defense mechanism to protect each other.

If right-wing bigots hide behind those protections, while being part of the problem that necessitates them in the first place, they deserve no protections.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"If a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance"

So yeah, call these intolerant hypocritical assholes out!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That's the paradox of intolerance though.

If you don't tolerate intolerance, you are intolerant.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

The paradox of tolerance is poorly named. Tolerance is part of the social contract and one that breaks the contract is no longer protected by it. The intolerant are excusing themselves from the contract and the rest of us can and should exclude them from the society they harmed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I don't think there is any valid excuse to force somebody to "come out of the closet" against their will, even hypocrisy. It's their choice to come out, not anybody else's.

I would expect that gay men, given the massive prosecution that they've been subject to in the past (and still are in many countries nowadays), would share that feeling, but maybe it's because I'm from a generation that grew up at a time when homophobia was absolutely normal and later lived in places which weren't like that at all were I've met gay men who had left their own countries in order to be able to be with the people they loved, and were I figured out just how unfair and casually nasty I had been in the years before.

Doing this kind of thing thinking you're holding a high moral ground because the other person is in some way immoral is exactly the kind of thinking extreme religious types have when they go after, amongst others, homosexuals.

As much as I dislike conservatives, I dislike even more doing this shit to somebody and the kind of person who would do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yeah, fuck that. if you're spewing hatred and trying to control women directly or indirectly, you get what you fucking deserve. you couldnt leave people alone to live their lives without forcing your way in, so fuck you, open that closet door and expose them for their hypocrisy and bigotry.

them being gay isn't the problem, they could have chosen happiness also and treated people the way they wanted to be treated, but injecting your hatred to a topic that you yourself are in? some single digit IQ moves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Fuck that. People have a right to know if the people that make being gay illegal are also then criminals themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

If a bloke supports stripping of my rights, why would I respect his? Let him see what it's like. May be he'll learn a lesson, or at least be an example for others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Alternate take: Don't vote for hate and ask for love.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that outing people is a good idea though. It's fine to point out that they're being hypocritical, or refuse them for their views, but outing them seems a step too far, especially if it's retaliatory.

Their being in the closet oughtn't be conditional.

The inverse wouldn't be acceptable, why would this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The reverse in this situation would be a closeted queer person outing someone for being...NOT shitty and detrimental to other people?

Nah, don't out people who aren't shitty. But if you're an active republican, ESPECIALLY if you're a political configure, and you trash the gay community you belong to? Fuck em. They aren't under the umbrella of protection the moment they try to push people out from under it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

People are turning on each other. Like those saying Latinos should out each other to be deported. Nothing but more examples of how divisive the Trump regime is. I suppose I don't have to look up how this kind of thing has happened before in times of fascism. I'll bet it's gotta be true.

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