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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Makes me glad I live in a state that got rid of the tipped minimun and just has one across the board minimum wage.

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[–] [email protected] 164 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Replace waiter with "CEO" and you begin to understand why socialists believe what they do

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Except instead of 25%, it’s 250%.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of that episode of Scrubs, where Dr Cox was going around with a tip jar, because if a guy pouring coffee gets a tip, he should get one from the people whose lives he saved.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

never mess with the people who handle your food.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I love that scene, you have a table of vicious killers and sociopaths, and even they're disgusted at the idea of someone not tipping.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

you don't tip because your cheap

I don't tip because I never go anywhere

we are not the same

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Tipping is bullshit. Restaurants should pay their workers properly. But I’m not gonna punish the server for that. She has zero control over that.

If I can’t afford to tip then I just don’t go to the restaurant. People would prefer to make up excuses for why they don’t wanna tip and how that doesn’t make them an asshole while taking huge huffs of their own farts. If you don’t like the tipping culture just go to a fast food restaurant or make your own food. Why is everybody such whiney bitches about everything?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Drag never tips while eating out.

Drag also lives in a country with a livable minimum wage and no tipping culture.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you just not tip? We live in a tipping society too, but tipping is just goodwill. Like if your waiter is really nice, and the whole thing was 115 dollars, you might give him 120 and he can keep the difference. Sometimes just a roundup, fromm 5.60 to 6 bucks or something. But it's not expected.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So you hate the tipping culture but also hate people who want it abolished. That's just beyond stupid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I HATE EVERYONE

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Like not tipping is going to abolish anything. You walk in, pay the owner and leave the worker hanging. Why would the owner care?

It's not like all the waiters can stay home waiting for something to change, people gotta live. Stop going to restaurants if you don't want to tip

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that's not the actual alternative for the waiter. The waiter either accepts their income as it is with some people not providing a tip, or they can opt for other employment like the rest of the workforce that isn't tipped. They don't have to sit at home waiting for things to change like helpless puppies.

I'm in California though so we don't have any of that wage fuckery where they can be paid less than minimum wage if tips make up a significant portion of their income. It's $17.55 hour minimum plus tips where I'm at.

I'd really rather see tipping outlawed along with all other obscured fees and just pay what you need to pay to have waiters and charge what you need to charge to have a business transparently printed on the menu.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Ahh yes other employment! How come nobody ever thought of that... Just get another job of course. Taxi driver don't like their wage? Why dont they change jobs. Improper ppe? Just quit. Minimum wage at mcdonalds not livable? Change jobs bro. Bad / dangerous working conditions? You know it... Change jobs! Why do we even bother with oversight like OSHA when all construction workers need is to change jobs when things arent properly done. Contractors will figure it out eventually! California should do away with their pesky wage rules,"to be fair" they aren't necessary, workers won't be sitting at home waiting for it.

It's so ridiculous of an answer ill go back to arguing with those who think they shouldn't tip. We'd all prefer to see it outlawed.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, I hate the people who say they want it abolished and use that as an excuse to not pay their waiters. I made it plainly clear in my explanation, I honestly don’t know how to dumb it down for you anymore man.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lol yeah the "I went to the restaurant but didn't tip to teach everyone a lesson" is the same as "I voted for the third party to teach everyone a lesson."

No, you gave the restaurant owner their profit and the employee nothing. You helped no one, you taught no lessons, and if we could harness your mental gymnastics as physical gymnastics we would have infinite renewable energy.

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[–] [email protected] 258 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Who's the cheap one in this equation?

.... the customer who is paying the owner of the restaurant for the food AND is obligated by social convention to pay extra to the waiter who is underpaid.

or

... the restaurant owner who doesn't mind living in a world where we have normalized underpaying restaurant workers to the point where we pass down that responsibility to the customer who is already paying for the food.

Pay your workers a proper wage and get rid of the idea of tipping.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 months ago (18 children)

Don't like tipping? Protest the policies by not going to restaurants, dont shove it on the workers who are stuck in the system.

The owner is 100% happy you came to pay him and not the waiter he didnt wanna pay anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago

Tipping is fine, but as in "keep the change", not "we need to change this tipping culture"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Except the food cost is only a small part of what we are paying for at a restaurant. What we are paying for is the worker's time and skills. We could, mostly, eat the same ingredients at home for much cheaper.

A lot of the other costs are small and make profit in scale.

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