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If you never lived where it snows and were moving North to where it does snow, what would you have liked to have known? What would you do to prepare?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Watch out for freezing rain as the sidewalks become scary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Im addition to the other tools to dig your car out, fill a large sealable bag or jug with a mix of sand and road-salt and leave it in your trunk/boot. If you end up haveing trouble getting traction when you start the car on a hill or have to get up a small lip around your tires, throw the mix under the drive train tires to help get you out of the hole.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Find an empty parking lot before it snows. Verify there are no obstacles in it or find a large area with no obstacles. Wait until it snows. Hit that bitch up and learn about how your car handles and how to recover when you fuck up.

Make sure to bring a shovel and maybe some boards or whatever others suggest in case you get yourself stuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

My wife and I were once at a day long event a few hours north and it snowed pretty heavy. Didn't even think about the car until we walked up to see the tires almost completely covered. It was late and the whole town pretty much shut down, so all I had to use was a window scraper.

Definitely keep a shovel in the car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Don't dive in head first, it will break your neck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Stack up on basic meds for when you catch cold. You're likely to have it a lot, it's kinda normal.

Also, if you're gonna live in an area with central heating, make sure heaters in your home are fully operational and don't need to have air removed. They should be hot all throughout their surface.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keep in your trunk the following: a portable snow shovel, an ice scraper, a window snow brush, a spare set of gloves, one of those emergency mylar blankets, a little spray-bottle of deicer, an extra jug of wiper fluid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

My mom would also suggest a heavy blanket, and maybe a candle / matches / lighter. But the candle could cause a fire if you aren't careful.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

From the top of my head:

Everyone forgets how to drive when it first snows. Try to avoid driving as much as possible during the first few days of winter.

Stick to busy roads if it recently snowed as they get plow priority, and the heavy traffic will help pack down the snow which will make it less slippery.

Fresh snow is a heck of a lot more slippery than snow that fell a few days ago.

4 wheel / all wheel drive is great, but you don't actually need it. If your car has traction control and a good set of tires, then you've got everything you need to drive in the snow with confidence.

Snow tires are a worthy investment. People think that you don't need snow tires if you have all seasons, but there's no comparison to tires that are specifically made to be driven in the snow.

The posted speed limit is for ideal weather conditions. If there's snow on the ground, then that's not ideal, and you need to drive slower than the speed limit if you want to be safe and not fly off the road. One time a car passed me and about 2 miles later I saw that exact same car in the ditch. You don't want to be that person. If you are that person, then everyone that passes you will be silently judging you while you sit there and wait hours for a tow truck because 30 other people all did the exact same thing at the exact same time.

Not really snow related, but cars with old batteries have a really hard time starting when the weather is at or below zero. If your battery is more than a few years old, it might be time to get a new one.

Bridges will freeze before anything else when the temperature gets below freezing. Just because the roads aren't slippery doesn't mean that any bridges you go over will be the same.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not necessarily about fresh snow. Old snow packs down into hard, slick ice and sometimes fresh snow gives you way more traction. Depends on the temperature.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also I moved into an area where there is less snow, but when we get it it almost always starts as rain.... Then snow... Which melts on the pavement.... And eventually the pavement hits zero and all that water turns to ice.

Now you have snow on ice, which is awful.

Where I grew up is exactly how you described it though. Generally fresh snow is fine if the road was previously plowed / treated with gravel or deicer / salt.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Layers are the key. Lots of small layers especially something sweat wicking on the bottom layers. It's good to have lots of layers to add and subtract

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Aside from all the practical tips... It's very pretty at night -- snowglow. Also sledding is super fun and can be done for cheap/free.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you get an office job find out what the work policy is on snow days. Plenty of employers will let you work from home without question even if it's a job where you would normally go in. For me any place that doesn't would get a hard no. It means they DGAF about you.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask a local to show you some of their winter clothes or to take you winter clothes shopping. Your warmest clothes right now are not warm enough. Capacitive touch gloves will let you use your phone.

If you have a car, get a snow brush and ice scraper (for windshield and windows). There is winter windshield fluid, get and use it when it's snowing. Get winter tires, it makes a difference. Insurance companies give a discount for having them. If there's snow on the road, go slower than you think you should, and start braking at least twice as early as when it's dry. Accelerate and brake slowly. If your car is sliding on ice, resist the temptation to keep pressing your brakes, try your best to steer the slide instead.

If your car gets stuck in snow and you need to run it to keep it warm, make sure the tail pipe is well clear of snow (carbon monoxide). Keep an emergency blanket, hat, gloves in the car in case of breakdown. If the wheels are stuck in a snowbank (just spinning in place), some sand or non-clumping cat litter can give you traction. You can sacrifice your floor mats for this, too.

If you walk instead of drive, consider crampons for your boots for if it gets icy out.

There's different textures and density to snow. Wet snow is dense and heavy, dry snow is light and fluffy. Shoveling can be very different depending on the snow. Lift/push with your legs, now with your arms or back. Take breaks if needed.

If you wear glasses, they will fog up when you go from outside to inside. Sorry. You could get anti-fog stuff used for snow and ski goggles, but most normal people just wait for them to warm up.

A scarf makes a big difference.

Wool can keep you warm even when wet.

Be prepared for power outages especially if the area does not bury power lines. Heavy snow, or worse, ice, can make tree branches heavy and fall and snap power lines. If this happens, be mindful of carbon monoxide. People, families have died trying to keep warm by running generators, stoves, etc indoors without proper ventilation.

Snow reflects sunlight; wear sunglasses if the sun is out and there's snow on the ground.

Go outside and listen when the snow is falling. It makes everything quieter and it's really ice to hear.

Snow that's warmed slightly then frozen again is crunchy and fun to walk on.

If you're north enough, the sunlight will not be sufficient for creating vitamin D. (Plus you'll probably be indoors more, less daylight in general.) Consider a supplement.

Consider a SAD light if lack of daylight affects your moods.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Go outside and listen when the snow is falling. It makes everything quieter and it's really ice to hear.

Somehow that typo works in this context. Ice.

Snow that's warmed slightly then frozen again is crunchy and fun to walk on.

It's "ice" to walk on.

Jokes aside, thank you so much for the information. I don't live where it snows but I learned a lit about how to survive if I ever need to. Thanks again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

So you spent the day outside shoveling snow, maybe you had to walk 20 minutes to get to a friend's house, maybe the cold itself just took it out of you because your body was burning calories just to stay warm. You finally get home and you are out of breath and just wanting to dry off and get warm again- and that's when you thank your past self for what you did on meal prep Sunday:

French onion soup.

You can look online for recipes, but here's what I improvised last Sunday (probably not definition french onion soup, but at least a variation on a theme). Mine takes about 1 hour to make (10 min prep, 50ish minutes to cook)

Ingredients:

  • 1/4 cup butter
  • 1 tablespoon fat (I use leftover bacon grease)
  • Onions (I used 4 but you could do more)
  • garlic (I used 1 bulb, but you could always do more)
  • Apple (I used 1, but you could always do more)
  • veggies (I like zucchini and carrots)
  • mushrooms if you like em
  • protein (stew beef, ground meat, chicken, turkey, hell even sandwich meat will do)
  • cardamom
  • Curry powder
  • vinegar (I use white balsamic, but apple cider vinegar or anything flavorful will do)
  • chicken broth
  1. Cut up the onions into thick chunks, no need to get precise, just hack 'em quick so you have less time being in a tearful agony
  2. Peel the bulb of garlic, but leave the cloves whole- don't crush them.
  3. Heat up your butter and fat, then add in the onions and garlic. Let it sautee for like... 30 minutes? If you have time to do a proper caramelizing then do that, but it's still good if you want to make it faster.
  4. While the onions and garlic do their thing, prepare your meat in another pan. Of course if you use ham or something pre cooked you can skip this step.
  5. Slice your apple(s) however you want, I like thin slices but cubes are good too.
  6. Add in veg and apples, let them cook for 15 minutes or so
  7. Add meat
  8. A couple dashes of cardamom and curry and also pour in your broth to desired consistency
  9. Give a taste then add a dash of vinegar to see how it really cuts through the fattiness

Dish and serve! If you want to really clog those arteries, go ahead and add some cheese on top, I like smoked Gouda. I also use a pipe sweater to torch the cheese and give it a little melty/ crispy texture. This soup should be thick and hearty to restore your energy and give you the gumption to brave the elements again. If you were link in legend of Zelda, you're getting at least 10 yellow hearts from this.

That and a hot tody will give you the coziness that will lift your spirits in the dark cold months.

Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Telltale sign that a French onion soup recipe is really Belgian: if it's written in Belch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is certainly one of the best ideas here. I second this, wholeheartedly!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It also will make your house smell great! I'd also suggest making enough for friends and visitors.

I'm in Chicago and it can get lonely if you decide to stay couped up in your house for too long. Make sure to be intentional on inviting friends over and becoming close with your neighbors. I noticed comments here are focused on the physical aspect of winter, but it's also important to take care of your mental health.

My theory is the Midwestern kindness is just a regional Stockholm syndrome. We're all in this together.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Keep your torso warm with layers and don't get wet

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Have good boots for winter, because ice or packed snow is slippery and often unavoidable. And when you're picking the boots, make sure they have enough space for thick socks.

If you are walking down a very snowy hill or something, I've found out that stepping with your heel first, so that your foot creates a stair-like step helps. Useful if it happens to be a path you use often.

Think about warm clothing and plan ahead. Especially in fall or spring, having extra warm clothing with you is super useful even if you don't need it at the moment, because you can never know when it gets suddenly colder.

Dress in layers. For example, the upper body could have the following layers:

  1. shirt you wear indoors

  2. thicker shirt/sweater

  3. possibly another sweater

  4. jacket/coat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

You forgot one of the most important and best layers thermals both upper and lower part. It dose SO much.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What is north for you? I see so many tips being the dumbest things I've ever heard of.

Like plastic wrap on your windows. Sounds like something stupid Americans does instead of buying proper insulated windows.

Not saying I'm a expert. But I am a Swede and deal with snow and cold every year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of houses/apartments in places like Boston, etc. have old, drafty windows that landlords don’t bother to improve. Lots of hardware stores here sell kits containing double-sided tape and sheets of a special type of plastic. You surround the window with tape, place the plastic over it, then use a hot hair dryer to shrink the plastic until it’s snug. You can hardly see the plastic if you do it right, and it does a great job of dealing with drafts.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

The US. Got it. Say no more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You should see the difference in available windows in the states vs Europe. Its like you are in the 23rd century and we are still in the 19th. Our boomer class raced all the way to the bottom to increase profits, so many things are just cheap plastic here. We can special order windows like you have, if you want to spend $4000 per window.

What you consider normal is exotic here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Windows like we have? It's just two panes of glass with a gap between the panes for air to act as an insulant.

Even with plastic windows, you can have two panes with a gap and it will work too.

I believe you. I just really struggle to comprehend that not being standard in parta where you get snow and cold. Or it being considered "extra". It's not alien technology. It's two panes with a gap between them. That's it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We DO have double pane windows. Just not in areas that have middling weather. Or construction before 1990 or so. Or in older mobile homes, which we have a lot of. And the houses with double pane windows are often poorly constructed, sometimes in the homes, sometimes in the windows, and often both.

Energy has historically been very cheap here, so efficiency has never been a priority. That is changing now.

The videos I've seen of northern European windows just seem to have a ton more features than ours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I see. I think I'm starting to understand. It makes sense when you mention that energy has been very cheap.

Why spend money on new windows when the difference in the energy bill is just a few bucks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

There is no such thing as good winter drivers and bad winter drivers. There is only those with snow tires and those without.

Best: 4 snows on awd and 2-4 water softener bags of salt in trunk for weight and getting unstuck.

2nd best: 4 snow on awd

3rd best: 2 snow on front wheel drive with 4 salt bags in trunk/bed.

4th best: awd no snows but good tread

Worst: fuckin everything else.

Household tips: insulate your pipes if in unfinished basement or have a heater running for really cold days or if the pipes will not have water FLOWING/RUNNING/MOVING thru pipes i.e. you go on vacation.

Plastic wrap your windows every fall. It sucks but helps a ton keeping heat in and costs down.

Spend the most money on gloves, hats and boots. Things that can't be layered and get rhe coldest.

Hot hands/heat pouches are life savers for winter sports/sporting events/hunting/camping. They make them in foot shaped stick on versions for boots, put one in each of your pants pockets and one each in your coat pockets.

Keep spare salt, shovel, gloves, hat, blanket, granola bars and water in your car for when you WILL go off the road and need to wait for AAA.

Don't fuck around with ice. Don't try and walk across it without losing balance. Dont try and walk across it because you think it's thick enough to hold you. If you are going on ice over water DONOT until you have drilled to check thickness or it is a large bodybif water that publishes the ice thickness.

Yes, snowmobiles can hydroplane across bodies of water.

Yes, skiis and snowboards can skate across bodies of water.

DO FUCKING NOT FUCKING TRY AND FUCKING HYDRO-FUCKING-PLANE OR SKI/SNOWBOARD ACCROSS ANY BODIES OF WATER.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't need snow tires in Chicago. The streets are very well plowed and salted. Just take it slow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Actually the best tires of all: stay the fuck home where it's nice and warm and work online in your socks and bathrobe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's the dumbest thing I've heard. The part about there not being good or bad winter drivers.

Honestly. Most of your tips sounds what someone says that was a tourist somewhere cold once in their life and now pretends to know what they're talking about.

Sincerely. Someone born and raised in the north.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Right. Vancouver drivers are terrible in the snow (if the snow sticks that year, and bad all year round anyway). Drivers from Saskatchewan or North Ontario scoff at whatever we get over here!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

There is no such thing as good winter drivers and bad winter drivers. There is only those with snow tires and those without.

I don't agree with that. Good tools are useless in the hands of the ignorant. Somebody can have the best winter tires ever engineered, but if they stop and turn on ice like they would do on perfect pavement on the dryest summer days, then they're fucked and they're a cocky jackass. A good driver will know the limits of their tires, whatever they are.

True, it follows that having this knowledge will generally convince good drivers to get better tires, but it's not like buying fancy new rubber will turn you into Ken Block (rip).

TL;DR: Get the winter tires, they're great and worth it. But PLEASE for the love of god take the time to learn how to fucking drive on snow and ice or you'll be stuck in the medium with the rest of them, because even with the best winter tires it's NOT the same physics

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you very much!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Moving to Michigan from wv has taught me one thing, people don’t really realize how slick ice and slush really is. I man the mountains even if you are going slow you’ll slide up and down the hills and turns, even small ones. Up here where it’s all flat and straight lines people go 80 through ice that they probably don’t realize they can’t stop or even really turn on effectively without huge risk. TAKE IT SLOW always be sure of road conditions and you ability before going out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've heard that people use snow tires. How does that work? Does everyone have 2 sets of wheels at home that they switch with the seasons?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Well, also no. I mean, I do, and so do many of my friends. But many people rely on all seasons. It's... Not the best plan. But a lot of people do it.

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