Thanks Youtube, I hate it. Like I can see some arguments for taking away the view counter, even if I think it's a bad decision. But the date the video was uploaded? Who does that even help? I guess Youtubers will either need to start properly dating their videos or we'll just have to use context clues to figure out when a video was uploaded.
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I hope the return down vote people just start collecting view count and upvotes too. Then we can at least keep that.
And you (user) will accept all of it without questioning and maybe they let you watch some video between the ads.
You know why they might be hiding upload dates? My theory is, Youtube doesn’t really want you looking at new stuff. (Very apparent by the algorithm) they want you looking at specific news stories, and specific content but not constantly seeking new uploads from independents.
But that is just a theory a plain theory. Thanks for watching.
I hate how now when I watch a bunch of videos from a creator, my YouTube feed ends up only having that creators videos, like yeah I'm enjoying this person, but I do like to watch other things as well.
It feels like I'm being forced into an echo chamber.
The one that gets me is watching a new creator to me on a subject I'm interest in e.g. gaming and it turns out that said creator so has a right wing nut job catalogue and that's all that fella my feed for the next two weeks.
My time is limited I just want to relax on my down time and ain't interested in rage bait but that's all yhe algorithm seems to want to show me every chance it gets by me clicking on a new name
I can't even use my home screen due to my Google account settings. What i'l do is do a search by date and subscribe to any good channels I like to ensure I get a curated feed for me on Youtube.
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this would essentially kill my method of viewing videos on the platform, this isn't a boost to interaction they think it will be, it will ultimately result in me watching less videos as I won't have the ability to decipher trash from good, so I'll just stick with content creators that I am used to and no longer branch out like I currently do.
I don't understand why they on such a self destruct path?! I already barely use this fucking platform anymore because of how shitty it has become already, and now they want to bait me into watching some low views garbage on top of all that? WHY?!
Because when you get pissed off at one shitty video and click off it to find a better one, that's free real estate in which to double your ads.
And what are you gonna do? Go to Peertube? YouTube is too gigantic to have a real competitor no matter how much we try. It is a beast so massive and bloated at this point that we just can't kill it without legislative interference. And Google knows damn well that they're basically the only game in town so they aren't afraid of significant user backlash.
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The money must grow.
Lmfao, fuck it, why not remove titles, tags and the searchbar too if you only want them to watch the videos your algo hand picks.
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Ok, this one is really stupid. Dislikes? Ok. Views? Fuck all the way off, Google.
Seems like a sure way to lose my engagement. I don't understand what Google thinks they're getting out of this except for flooding you with more ads between video recommendations at the cost of people actually watching anything and using the damn website.
Between removing the dislike counter, a defect search bar that shoves garbage down your throat, recommendations of decreasing quality on my end and shorts (which I hesitantly gave a try but ultimately lost all interest in because it remained mostly low effort content despite my efforts to train my algorithm), this is just another reason why I find myself spending more time enjoying other things lately.
Maybe I am just out of touch, but I smell another bubble bursting when I look at how enshittified all major web services are simultaneously becoming.
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In the future you’ll pay $900/mo to stare at a blank page.
And you’ll have to because all the free sites are entirely ads.
You joke but like, they are already pushing a twitch style sub model pretty hard already with the youtube "private sub" system that creators can do, it grants you access to videos that the creator marked as a subscription only, which is basically the same thing, as it shows you the video, and a tiny "sub only" label, and when you try to open it it brings you to the sub page.
I forsee in the future youtube moving to a fully monetary model with only brand issued content being "free" and everything else requiring youtube premium
"Fuck this. I can remove my eyeballs for free!"
Just try it and see how your new cyborg hand DRM prevents unauthorized body modifications.
Also, scientists are already at work finding ways to inject advertisements directly into your brain.
How about you test marking videos as watched across devices so I don’t have the same shit pushed back at me all the time.
Are you using a Pi Hole or any tool that blocks ads though the DNS?
Interesting thought, might have to dig into that. Hadn't considered it messing with play history.
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HOW ABOUT YOU STOP SHOWING ME ALREADY WATCHED VIDEOS IN GENERAL?! Why fill my home feed with shit I've seen already? I literally have to click (...), click (not interested), click (why?), click (I've already seen the video) FOR EVER SINGLE VIDEO I EVER WATCHED ON YT.
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Why? Is everything going to shit? Like counts, view counts, dislikes .. I suppose it won't change anything for me on reVanced, but still.. why?
Their ~~top minds~~ data scientists figured it’d be easier to manipulate users this way.
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It’s already really difficult to engage with the content you want to see, but now they’re also taking away the only immediately noticeable metric of a successful video? Genuinely just why
Too hard to manipulate the algorithm with ai spam, disguised ads and propaganda if users can see all the videos at the top of their recommended feed have 20 views.
You must only view what the Corporation approves.
Sir, please put this empty verification can into your anus. Video coming up right after!
Last time someone did that it triggered a conflict between Serbia and Albania!
They removed the star system a long time ago. They removed the down votes again a few years back.
They want their algorithm to be the only thing that decides whether you watch a video or not.
That'll work excellent for all those people trying to find tutorial videos for 'XYZ' when you have no verification data to determine whether it's even a legit tutorial.
People who watch tutorial videos only get on, watch the video and then leave. How are they supposed to make tons of advertising revenue from that? No, we must sacrifice that class of video from the platform, in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
I mean you joke, but they're literally doing that to reaction video channels. MXRPlays had his entire channel deleted, despite having millions of subscribers. It was clear for years that someone at youtube had a grudge against them.
Especially since they deleted their channel. Gave strikes to all their videos, and took the videos down. Buuuuuuut, someone ELSE illegally reuploaded their content, and they can't even report the video because their channel is deleted. The illegal re-uploads have no strikes, no issues, the content stay up, and some OTHER person makes money off of MXRPlays years old content.
the content creator isn't following the proper system then. You don't need YouTube to do a copyright/IP violation claim. Google is actually opening themselves up to significantly hot water if they are indeed refusing to allow a process for DMCA on creators that are deleted off the platform, as there are severe penalties for not reacting to a DMCA claim when you are a content provider.
If they actually owned the rights to the videos, that creators first step when learning that Youtube is not going to do anything about the violation, is to manually file it themselves, and honestly they should state that Youtube at that point is intentionally allowing it which would perhaps pull Youtube into it as well
just because YouTube decides that they aren't going to do anything, doesn't invalidate your claim to copyright. I'm surprised that the channel hasn't seeked legal action against anyone regarding it.
My two cents on the matter is that it's likely the channel is worried that their videos aren't transformative enough fair use wise and that they themselves may get into legal troubles if they attempted to. A lot of commentary artists stay borderline on fair-use and not fair use, however if this was not the case, they have a pretty decent chance of winning that suit.
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What type of reaction content? If it wasn't using the minimum amount of copyrighted material needed to comment or being transformative, and was distributing the majority of a work, then at any point a DMCA will nuke em. Google might not think it's worth the risk hosting that reaction content forever.
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LOL. You clearly have never heard of G.A.S. (gear acquisition syndrome). You get on YouTube to learn how to play guitar and next thing you know you've bought three guitars, a closet full of pedals, amps, amp modelers, etc., and you still don't know how to play.
That does not benefit specifically Alphabet though...
Of course it does. You go in for a lesson and fall down the gear rabbit hole. Next thing you know you are watching endless hours of gear reviews and demos. A lesson is a single video where gear videos is an entire genre.
Oh, thanks for the correction!:-)
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