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Former President Donald Trump heaped praise on authoritarian Chinese President Xi Jinping during a lengthy interview Friday with the podcaster Joe Rogan.

“We’re dealing with the smartest people,” Trump said, referring to the leaders of U.S. adversaries, about an hour and a half into their conversation.

“They hate when I say, you know, when the press — when I called President Xi, [the press] said, ‘Well, he called President Xi brilliant.’ Well, he’s a brilliant guy. He controls 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. I mean, he’s a brilliant guy, whether you like it or not. And they go crazy.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like he needs an iron fist up his own ass.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Honey covered iron fists

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the 100% the "how did the other Germans, who weren't nazis, just let it all happen?" period. Gives you a bit more empathy for just how helpless those people must have felt and how complex those developing emotions must have been.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No it doesn't, because I know that even at its darkest there was a resistance movement and that his enablers chose their path.

The "not Nazis" chose to side with him against his "enemies" because it was easy, not because it was right.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, that's the complexity I'm talking about. The fact that you have time to post on Lemmy, as I do, and aren't setting something on fire, knocking on doors, etc. right now is the point. But we're in it now, make no mistake, this is that developing moment, this is the time it can be reversed, if ever. We're either lazy, or feel like we have too much relative comfort/friends/career standing to lose to be loud and active right now. But this is that moment, we are the frog in the pot. We'll never realize it's actually possible until the day after, because we need to hold on to the hope that it's actually impossible for it to happen again, but it is possible.

You speaking with confidence here it's also a way for you to personally calm yourself and reaffirm that same "actually, it will never happen" mentality. That's "them" not "us".

As with anything, there's a spectrum and plenty of the complicit German citizens were all too ready to drop to their knees early - the "anticipatory obedience" that bezos and the LATimes billionaire just demonstrated by not endorsing a candidate. Some of us will always stay quietly defiant, until enough of our comfort is taken away and we're left with no choice but to be active. But this is definitely a "flood the streets to denounce the steady rise of fascism" moment, and the streets aren't full, and you and I are both inside right now.

I'm not claiming a moral high ground, or providing forgiveness for bootlickers - I'm speaking to a place in the middle, where capitalism has worked very hard to make us comfortable enough, docile consumers. I include myself, because it's all fucking hard, and society is engineered so we can find our minor reliefs, while never forgetting about the looming absolute failure waiting for you if you get off the treadmill for too long. Where your life will peel away from you in layers, until you're left cold in the streets while pandemics rage, atmospheric rivers pour, heat domes wait around the corner and it's illegal to sleep outside and the shelters (built by the private prison companies) are all full.

Don't be afraid to talk out loud about this reality we share right now, fascism is on the rise throughout the whole world now. Russia is the instigator, US is the theater and the whole world is given permission as more is tolerated here. We can feel some shame and some anger, that's okay. Maybe it will motivate us or hopefully, maybe it will piss off the younger kids with less "stuff" and comfort amassed to lose. I was that kid, quick to jump into a dangerous crowd with a cause, with lines of tactical swat cops surrounding major intersections/freeways we occupied. I was able to do that then, because it was my decision, but my decisions are attached to other people now and, again, there's just more complexity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

You know what it reminds me of? A royal wedding 💍💒....

We pronounce you dictator and orange goo. You may now smear the orange goo all over your face 😈.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

If donnie wants to spank America, I guess Tucker is here for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I bet the superior Yi Ping Ping Pong doesn't rape minors in China. That doesn't mean I want his ass telling me what to do. Fuck that Winnie the Pooh wannabe bitch. But it means, he's not Trump. But to be fair, Pooh probably orders lots of people's executions per month. Trump orders McDonald's. So there's that difference too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the tankies will lie to your face and say they really truly just support Jill Stein for no other reason than her stellar campaigning skills. Lmao.

What a fucking joke half this platform is 🤣

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair the tankies agree with this opinion. There's plenty of other stuff they should disagree with, but this is in total agreement with their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember when Romney saying "45% of Americans don't matter, now watch me look for a wine menu at McDonald's!" was enough to lose the presidency?

Pepper Ridge Farm remembers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tbf, as a Mormon, Romney does not drink alcohol so he wouldn't ever be looking for a wine list...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah Mormons don't drink if other Mormons would find out. He's drinking wine at home not in public.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is pulling the invader zim " I will rule you all with an iron fist" and people are cool with it. I feel like half the country went to "Skool"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

His voterbase does not care.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This the fucking world my dad wants us to live in. He begged me tonight to please vote Trump he going save us.

Wonder what my dad would think about this? He hates China says Trump hates China and will make them pay with tariffs. I tried to explain that we pay those not China but it wss like talking to a brike wall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

The idea behind tariffs is to increase the prices of imports so that domestic production can compete. Higher prices are definitely the point, but the idea is that at least with domestic production the price increases get circulated back into the domestic economy as jobs/wages. But, if the domestic economy can increase production without increasing wage expenditure then the money from the higher prices just goes to the shareholders.

If it's something for which there is no domestic production, it's just a tax, and it should become a question of what does money from the tariffs get used for... probably taxcuts for the rich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He won't think about it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My dad's the same way, he hasn't pleaded with me about my vote but that may only be because I don't talk to him.
Have you seen "The Brainwashing of My Dad"? I think that's what it's called, a friend recommended it to me and I need to make some time for it, sounds like it covers the impact of garbage like fox news on old men

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've actually heard using parental to controls to block Fox News magically turns right wingers into decent human beings/otherkin forced to live as human beings.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Note that you may have to deal with symptoms similar to addicts coming off their high, because that's exactly what it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I heard about that too, they get grouchy for awhile.. but eventually calm down after a lot of fits...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

JustWatch has some choices, I'd be partial to Pluto unless you wanna rent/buy it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I really fucking hate this profligate.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This has been up for two hours, I wonder where the propagandists hollering about genocide are.

Edit, four hours now: It must be acceptable to genocide Uyghurs, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

We all knew that. Just like it is acceptable to jail citizens for writing mean things about the government on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Those are in the Kamala threads doing what they're paid to do

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

They don't need to be paid to be ignorant. A lot of people don't understand nuance or how the American political system works and it shows in those threads.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm honestly still skeptical of that, It seems to me like Lemmy would be too small to be an efficient use of a paid shill's time, vs having them go to a mainstream social media platform. I think they're either genuine in intent but have twisted themselves into a completely counterproductive idea of what to do out of anger at how things in the world have gone, or in some cases are people trolling for a position they don't support, but who are doing it for free to advance their own position rather than for a paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think most of these folks you find on Lemmy are just useful idiots whose stupidity/ignorance/naiveté has been weaponized on other platforms.

I'm sure we're on someone's sentiment management radar by now but I'm not sure if we're populated enough for a truly serious effort to be mounted. That's coming at some point though, of that I have no doubt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I could see a cunning propagandist trying to get a strong foothold early in order to "claim territory." Remember voat?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I suspect that most of them don’t really care about genocide or the welfare of others in general. It’s a self-righteous bandwagon for them to jump on.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point, I'm just posting this graphic

Anytime I run into the "Don't Vote Harris, that will stop Genocide!" camp

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And the democrats are at least working towards a cease fire. Trump would let Bibi turn his enemies lands to glass because Trump only cares about Trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Trump's team has literally been caught sabotaging peace talks, while he runs on "The Democrats will not stop the genocide that my campaign wants to do more of!"

Reminds me of Iran-Contra....