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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

To be perfectly honest, I'm worried about what the US will do once their political capital weekens more internationally while they sit on the 130 odd military bases abroad in 55 foreign potentially 'hostile' (to US interests) territories (if they don't eat their own first ofc). Public trust has already embraced it's fundamentally rotten core and rightfully so. The social contract is in shreds between the government and it's people. Something will crumple and it will be ugly. I don't think Kamala is much of an answer either, but at least it may buy time for circumstances to change. Americans have to learn to live with each other, one way or another.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i recommend searching:

"jon stewart on crossfire"

"jon stewart on 60 minutes 2004"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah a classic. For additional context, Crossfire was cancelled about a week after that and Tucker Carlson never wore a bowtie again.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 days ago

Well of course he is... him and his kind are the first ones to be round up in the camps-I mean.. the voter fraud testing center and family firing range.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Don’t die for your beliefs. Make a fascist die for theirs.” - someone on here

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Its a cute slogan, but all the trigger-pullers appear to be hanging out on the Demolition Ranch Discord.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Anyone see #UNTRUTH - the Psychology of Trumpism?

[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 days ago

Jon Stewart would be put to death if Trump had his way. To quote Mort Goldman, "Save Jon Stewart, he's our most important Jew!"

[–] [email protected] 101 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Jon getting serious is kinda scary and rightfully so. He’s worried like the rest of us but likely has a better idea of what’s coming should Trump win. He’s a smart dude.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He's a very smart dude. I wish he'd run for a high political office. People like him are the ones we need in there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yes totally agree. I would love for him to run as well but I am guessing Jon is also smart enough NOT to run unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The thing that really bugs me is that Trump has told everyone exactly what he's going to do, but no one seems interested.

He's been very clear that he's not going to concede, and that he has legal challenges ready to go. The election isn't going to be won or lost on votes in swing states, but who can provide the most pressure on officials in those setting states.

I have this sinking feeling that he's going to be declared winner through corruption and manipulation, the dems will say "oh well fiddlesticks", and the western world will start matching towards fascism.

As in, Kamala is talking about medical records and Trump is planning insurrection.

Just like the investigation into Russian interference, and all Trumps legal stuff. "Yeah well he's guilty as sin but you know - what are you gonna do".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

"When someone tells you who they are, believe them."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

the western world will start matching towards fascism.

Continue marching, you mean? That ship sailed years ago.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This is the story that we need to be focusing on until election day. None of the other stunts matter. If anything this post should be pinned. We should keep our eye on the ball even if the media won't.

Trump threatened to send the military and the national guard after people on the left and Democratic politicians. This is blatant and open fascism. In any other election Trump being openly fascist would be the October surprise. Everyone needs to see this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Trump, the whining tiny-penised cunt who nobody likes because of how brittle his bones are, has threatened to round up his critics into camps?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He’s not even phrasing it as a threat, for him it’s just an “obvious solution” to a problem he made up. He doesn’t even see it as something serious so he doesn’t threaten us with it.

Which makes what he is saying even more scary. Imagine what is he NOT saying and that he thinks would be a threat? Fuck, as someone on the other side of the pond I hoped I could show my support to my fellow Americans but this will fuck us all in the end.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

To paraphrase Trump, he said if elected, he will send the military and national guard after his political and ideological opponents.

That's a threat. It's phrased as a threat. The fact he's says it calmly doesn't matter. This is what fascists do. They identify an out group. They stir up public fear and resentment against the out group. They make promises to their supports, in the form of threats of violence against the out group, to get rid of the out group. Then historically speaking they make good on their threats to the best of their ability once they take power.

When fascists run out of the current out group they just find another way to divide the population and pick a new out group. As long as fascists want to cling to power they need an enemy. What Trump isn't telling us is the next out group he hasn't picked yet because he doesn't plan that far ahead. The Haitian immigrant conspiracy was a spur of the moment thing that other people had previously come up with and told him about on the plane ride to the debate. If he ever needs a new group to fearmonger about he'll just ask other fascists for ideas. edit: typos

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

The Orange Turd is coming for anyone that stands against him.

[–] [email protected] 159 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean, yeah. He's literally threatening to kill us all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Just not all at once

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Don't exaggerate. We dont know that he intends to kill us. Maybe the National Guard is only meant to maim or seriously injured us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

A fully armed batalion to remind us of his love nonetheless.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When we should start to worry? When it’s too late?

Young, I couldn’t comprehend how Hitler was elected, disgraced then could come back and how the people let that happening.

Decades later, i really understand: complacency.

Someone bringing the presidency position just casually say in front of the press that he want to hurt its opponent... In public.

Imagine what he say in private, with all his yes men and psycho writer of project 2025 for example... And we know it’s not an accident, he reference hitler more than once... He is in admiration with dictators... he want to be one of them...

Yeah, please "don’t exaggerate".

Don’t learn from the history. You’re lucky he is also stupid and old...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My comment was meant to be sarcasm. I have to laugh lest I go insane.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And it's not all either. He's only going to ~~kill~~ maim the Democrats. And black people. And brown people. And LGBT people. And women. And non-Christians. So, you know, as long as you're not in one of those groups, you'll be totally fine. For now. But maybe don't get too comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

So, just more than half the country, at least at first.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not women, republicans need them to cook, clean and produce children.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

As long as they aren't too mouthy and don't get any ideas about autonomy. So, things like driving, having a credit card or a bank account...nah. And birth control or abortion? Don't make me laugh.

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[–] [email protected] 245 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 131 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And he's quite right to point out that the media loves obsessing over the dumb shit (like Palmer's penis and McDonald's) and spends far less time running down real shit.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I respect that he points out that stuff too, but... Supply and demand, right?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Supply and demand has no place in serious journalism - that should be the domain of tabloids.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I agree with you about how it should be. I was merely pointing out how it is.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 days ago

👆💯👆

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