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If Trump wins the election, US cities are at risk of military takeovers and mass deportations (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event of Donald Trump’s return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.

Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run by Democrats to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called “sanctuary” cities.

He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.

“In cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order … I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,” Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president, Agenda47.

Trump provoked uproar earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals – “the enemy within” – on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 month ago

US will get a taste of its own medicine nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago (35 children)

Correct, so maybe we could stop protesting Harris over Israel until AFTER the fucking election?

Just saying, we should probably stop the genocide coming for us before we try to stop the one not in our backyard? I mean it's going to be harder to get Israel to stop bombing Palestinian children and give humanitarian aide to said children while we're lined up for Trump's gas chambers

signed, a transgender woman who don't want to end up in a mass grave full of other AMAB individuals all of us wearing pink triangles!

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No not ''at risk''. This is his NUMBER ONE policy promise. He's running on this. Explicitly. Why are we pretending it's not?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, ghettoes. And not the US ghettoes of the 60s and 70s, but the German ghettoes of the 30s and 40s.

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[+] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes that's your fantasy

"Boy howdy, I sure am glad I'm in Trump's glorious regime, we're gonna take Murrica back from those [British Cigarettes] and [Plauralized Spanish word that means the opposite of the Spanish word Blanca.] who done let all them dog-eating Mexicans in here!" is probably what the National Guard would say in reality

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I highly doubt that and have much more faith in the principles and professionalism in our state and national gaurd even though I talked soooo much shit about them when I was in the Air Force.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It wouldn't even be the first time people were deported over political ideology.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Man, you have way more confidence in the military not being full of MAGA idiots than I do.

As someone constantly surrounded by people in the military - they're almost all MAGA idiots, and the ones who aren't are fence sitting "libertarians" who go right wing every time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Curious are you surrounded by Marines? Because all the other branches poll about 30 approve /70 disapprove on Trump specifically. And the military has told him he can't order this stuff before.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Army and Navy mostly

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Only one person matters and his name is Scott Q. Brown, Jr., Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A person who can and will be replaced.

That's actually how it will go for pretty much everyone down the chain of command. Obey Trump or be replaced by those who will, except the traitorous fucks are already drawing up lists of people they know will obey, and by extension, those they know will not.

Look into Schedule F of project 2025. It's a plan to replace the entire government with loyalists. And that includes the commanders of the military.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (12 children)

That will take years though. And even once it's done the majority of the military will be ill trained and ill equipped.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What about military leadership, though?

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And this is why I am dumbfounded that the majority of the left is anti-2a...the people who are gun owners unfortunately vote red, because they're single issue voters or Republicans. All the dems would need to do to completely destroy the GOP would be drop the anti2a rhetoric and they'd sweep every election until the GOP died and another party came to compete.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They aren't anti 2a. They're anti extremist interpretation.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's almost like having guns freely and widely accessible with few restrictions leads to a lot of death and injury, and the group with higher empathy has a problem with that.

[+] [email protected] -17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes because other places without firearms, have no crime at all...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No gun crime, that can be said quite easily. Or at least the numbers of shootings are small enough that they make international news when they happen.

And also, the cops in those countries tend not to shoot people or pets. Like ever. Cases where an officer is forced to discharge their weapon are also international news stories.

But here in the states, we wouldn't know any of that, because here there are two or three mass shootings per day.

Just let that dichotomy sink in a bit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

No gun crime, that can be said quite easily. Or at least the numbers of shootings are small enough that they make international news when they happen.

These countries also have safety nets and generally give a shit about their citizens. The usa doesn't have any of that.

And also, the cops in those countries tend not to shoot people or pets. Like ever. Cases where an officer is forced to discharge their weapon are also international news stories.

We need to end qualified immunity here big time. Also something other countries(western) don't have. 1 in 38ish deaths via firearms are from police. That's including suicides which account for 66% of all gun deaths in the usa.

But here in the states, we wouldn't know any of that, because here there are two or three mass shootings per day.

No there is not. This is the issue with data from the anti2a crowd, it's like talking to the anti-abortion groups...made up and fully exaggerated shit.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have never once heard an elected democratic politician (or serious candidate) speak against the 2nd amendment or even allude to repealing it. The only conversation I have personally seen/heard surrounding "gun control" is all about background checks/red flag laws which are supported by the majority of democratic and republican voters in every poll I've seen. All of the so-called "anti2a" rhetoric comes from the right in the form of fear mongering. That is to say (with no intention of being condescending), maybe stop listening to what right wing news outlets and politicians say Democrat's are saying and just listen to what democrats are actually saying.. You might be surprised at how sensible their ideas actually are on this issue.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

I have never once heard an elected democratic politician (or serious candidate) speak against the 2nd amendment or even allude to repealing it.

You're.... you're kidding right? The fuck are you talking about...

There's literally an entire subreddit that documents every time a ban or confiscation comes up.

https://old.reddit.com/r/NOWTTYG/

You must be completely ignoring everything said on the Democrats side.

The only conversation I have personally seen/heard surrounding "gun control" is all about background checks/red flag laws which are supported by the majority of democratic and republican voters in every poll I've seen.

Uhh no...AWB, age limits, handgun bans, gun tax, mag limits, waiting periods, NFA.... I could go on and on. You must not be from the USA if you think they only talk about BGC and ERPOs.

All of the so-called "anti2a" rhetoric comes from the right in the form of fear mongering. That is to say (with no intention of being condescending), maybe stop listening to what right wing news outlets and politicians say Democrat's are saying and just listen to what democrats are actually saying.. You might be surprised at how sensible their ideas actually are on this issue.

I love how you immediately think I'm listening to right wing garbage. You do know there are a large and growing amount of left leaning people who are gun owners now right? Trump admin helped increase that number tenfold. You might want to read more into what you think the dems are saying, because it's not just ERPOs and BGCs....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I guess he's seen the episode of deep space nine and thought it would be a good idea...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

I can imagine the various branches of the US military getting into slap fights over who gets to oppress whom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Sounds like he's promoting firing up civil war tbh. How much of that could he get away with before people aggressively fight back? Or at least I hope we'd aggressively fight back

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Hey if the military takes over my town they're going to be upset. As well they should be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Oh goodie, this that whole reason we have the 2nd amendment thing? Should work out great.

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