If this is the case then artists should be able to shut down internet access for AI companies that steal their work in those states.
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2024
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It's only illegal when an individual does it, when it's a giant corporation, it's called innovation. /s
Secretary KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!
The fifth circuit believes regional monopolies should be exploited to control consumers.
With proper competition, banning someone for suspected misuse would only chase them to competitors.
The fifth circuit is incompetent.
Owch, I should start a blog. My chain of thought went from this to meshnets and presumption of innocence, and in the dispersed intersections of these to communications control and totalitarianism, and there I wrote some kind of socio-political rant (again) for a fiction book or movie.
I can't erase that much text, so it's under a spoiler tag.
spoiler
We live in a pretty usual time. We grew up in an unusual time, though, fueled by anti-colonialism, WWII experience and Cold War, and then some optimism over its end. When some kind of justice could really be had in the West and even the second world.
Soviet dissidents would use Soviet laws in Soviet courts against the Soviet system with their defenders honestly working for that goal, and the only way the system was able to confidently close them was by inventing a non-existent kind of schizophrenia and then forcibly putting them into mental institutions.
One can say those formerly privileged parts of the world are turning into some kind of Turkey as shown in Midnight Express, and hopefully the third world is moving in a different direction.
When I was 12+, I would talk pretentiously and vaguely how all this won't last and we are seeing the last decade of it in any notable form (while in fact it was dying when I was a baby), and that the solutions are in decentralization and preparation for underground communication and asymmetric warfare, keeping in mind that the enemy won't be using anything conventional or predictable either.
I think this is symmetric to why we are seeing such decay - because for information people have lost understanding that you should always read between the lines, and for justice people have lost understanding that it can never be had by the law without spending blood, sweat and tears, and that this is not end of history and neither information nor justice are something we can reliably have in any matter in any moment.
So that advice is simply about being more humane, rejecting absolutes and burning idols, and knowing there'll always be a situation where you are morally right, but the whole world, the law, the opinions, the public morale and the balance of power - they will all be against you and you should still fight and shouldn't accept it. And also that civilization is similar to Ouroboros eating its tail - you have to ruin some parts for it to live, and those parts don't want to be ruined and have that supported by laws and popular opinions ; you have to be destructive.
The culture of resistance. Something old Star Wars EU had (literally, in the WEG guidelines from 1994 PDF I have, comparing the Empire to the "civilized world" and saying that Empire's civilians generally don't feel any different and don't know about Empire's atrocities, unless they are personally affected).
Soooooo VPN?
more like 5th circus
I'm just glad they're still distracted with torrents...
The implication of this being that I am behind the times, stuck on outdated tech, and didn't even know it is uncomfortable.
The irony is that what they’re talking about is even older than torrents. It’s just less heavily policed.
Ah, that makes me feel better. I've probably heard of it before, and just never looked into it.
What's old is new
Are you guys using VCR to pirate media or something?
I think USENET is having a resurgence with the cool kids? 🤷♂️
In 10 years we will all be downloading cars
Oh God I'm uncomfortable too now
Shhhh
The first rule of [REDACTED] club, y’all.
Loose lips sink ships. Don’t be that guy, y’all.
Sony, WB, and Universal logic:
The people at that address probably use water to make meth. Cut off their water so they can’t make meth.
Or they received a USB cable, which they later used to transfer pirated files, in an envelope... Remove their mailbox! (Or force every postal service person to ignore it...)
A company "accusing" someone of piracy isn't proof. Access to the internet is almost essential these days. If you can prove a person is pirating prosecute them under the law with fines or even incarceration if warranted. But stripping internet access from someone shouldn't be seen as an acceptable punishment for a free citizen anyway.
Whoever owns the network attached to the IP address also shouldn't be responsible for actions of every user. Let's ban an entire company, college, or government institution from the internet because an IP showed up on a list... dumb ruling.
It's like turning off the electric of someone accused of growing weed. Typical conservative response
Remember to turn off their sunlight too!
And while we're at it, let's cut the wind off at their property as well, so they can't generate any local wind power!
And definitely take away their fruits and zinc and copper, so they can't build their own massive multi-lemon batteries, which they will otherwise rapidly upscale by growing even more lemons, using the same array of lemon-powered LEDs that also grew that weed, all in an infinite loop of lemon kush! We really can't let that happen.
So no due process, just "cut the Internet of the people we tell you to." What the fuck?
This needs to go to the next level. Do some torrenting off of the public wifi at the courthouse and get the courthouse's internet terminated.
Supreme Court?
I don't think you want that. That will cause every ISP to block VPN and torrent traffic out of fear because essentially this will be "law" being established if they get their hands on it
I was referring to the courthouse where the ruling took place.
They mean the next level of courts.
They aren't suggesting that you pirate from the supreme court (although I have nothing against it)
Yes, they asked, "Supreme Court?" But I clarified that is not what I meant by next level.
I meant escalate the number of people being disconnected starting with the court that made the ruling. Or perhaps the judge wants that so as to force ISPs to be declared as utilities.
ISP's want it both ways. They want the protection of utilities without the regulations.
I wish that would work.
Laws are only for the peasants to follow
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