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Can be from any kind of media.

For me it's Margot from The Magicians (which is interesting because in the books she is anything but) and Jesse Faden from Control.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Princess Cimorene from the Enchanted Forest Chronicles

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Susannah Dean and Naomi Nagata

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Zoe, Inara, Kaylee, and River. Mic drop.

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Granny Weatherwax, Nanny Ogg, Tiffany Aching.

About half the cast of Fullmetal Alchemist (Olivier Mira Armstrong, Izumi Curtis, Riza Hawkeye, Winry and Pinako Rockbell, Lan Fan, Mai Chang, Chris Mustang... and I'm sure I'm missing some).

Oh, and friggin' Chell, of course. Makes you almost feel sorry for GLaDOS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Boss, MGS

Not Big Boss, the man with the eye patch and is a bad guy, the woman who taught him and the mother of Ocelot

She was such a badass woman that she inspired basically everyone around her to try to mold the world in the way they thought she saw it. Shes a great example of a woman/mother who's a badass directly because of the skills normally associated with those roles. Yeah, she can fight and kick your main characters ass, but that's mostly because she's spent time nurturing him and caring for him to the point where he emotionally cannot fight her. She regularly disarms strong, imposing men (some with superpowers like lightning channeling) by just looking at them sternly and implying she's about to call them by all 3 of their names in a disapproving tone

Time and again she does badass things while she's alive, and her death is technically the catalyst for the rest of the series as those who loved and admired her try to shape the world as she saw it, which isn't even something she herself did because of her loyalty to her country.

Oh and she's voiced by the same woman who does Pearl from SpongeBob, which is wild

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Ellen Ripley. Under pressure she steps up and does what needs doing. Whether that means operating a loader, comforting a child or making monsters extinct.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Xena Warrior Princess

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hermione Granger because I read so little fiction that this is the first woman (?) that comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

assuming that "strong independent woman" being in the title of the original post counts as someone saying it

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Leela from Futurama

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Appsros character in Abberation

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Roberta "Bobbie" Draper from The Expanse was the first to jump into my head.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Came here to say Avasarala.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

That’s funny. I also posted Naomi Nagata. While I like Chrisjen and Bobby more, I think Naomi wins for strong independent. General of the resistance, self-marooned insurgent, and the escape of the Chetzmoka.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Samus came to mind immediately

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hyacinth Bucket (ITS BOUQUET)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He might be a doormat, but she'd be utterly lost without Richard. As such, I can't agree she's entirely independent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Adding to this, she's also too concerned about what other people (her social betters not her family) think of her to be truly independent. She is strong, however.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Korra and Toph from Avatar, Tsunade and Sakura from Naruto

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Garnet (Steven Universe)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mirko!

Margot is also amazing, but she's not independent IMO. She's very emotionally hooked. Not in a bad way, mind you. She's like a shounen protagonist who screams for 5 episodes because her friend was threatened and somehow a nation collapses as a result.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, no one is really independent, but women in fiction tend to be very dependent on men as (almost) their primary personality trait.

I loved Margot because she was as independent as anyone in real life can be. She did her own thing, helped her friends, let her friends help her, fucked up, owned it and fixed it (most of the time, anyway).

All the characters were very realistic (well, if you ignore the magic).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I mean emotionally independent. Margot had some serious needs. Functionally she's totally independent. Probably all of them except Fen were.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Not the first that comes to mind, but I have to add Nausicaa into the mix. She shows her strength through nothing but kindness and determination, without the need for violence or cold cruelty. A frightened critter bites her, and she endures the pain to keep soothing it without interruption. Ripley's a badass, but she'd never be able to do that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Metroid/Samus Aran

She’s almost always on her own dealing with a horde of alien enemies but does it well.

Though, she does have a bad habit of losing her suit’s features and abilities on nearly every mission she’s on lol

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

High King Margot is a great answer

For me, I thought of Linda Carter’s Wonder Woman and then Captain Rachel Garrett, commander of the USS Enterprise, 1701-C

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  1. No one has mentioned Princess Leia. Does she qualify? She later became a general but I haven't seen that episode.

  2. All the characters I recognize in this thread are primarily written by men. That can't be good. I haven't seen Barbie though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That was my thought too. Princess Leia is a complete badass and my first time seeing a woman in that such a depiction on any screen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On point number two, I mean that’s probably because most industries, especially media, have been dominated by males for decades and are just now having more female presence in the last decade in greater, more pronounced roles and numbers.

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Off the top of my head - all of Lady Parts, Lydia West as Jill Baxter in It's a Sin, Toni Collette as Muriel and Rachel Griffiths as Rhonda in Muriel's Wedding, Parminder Nagra as Jess in Bend It Like Beckham, Milla Jovovich as Leeloo in The Fifth Element, Natalie Portman as Evey in V for Vendetta

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Ignoring the shit show that is Rings of Power, Galadriel, Luthien, Arwen, Eowyn, and Nienna.

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Major Matoko Kusanagi from the Ghost in the Shell series.

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For me, I respect female characters who are written strong but not mean or "buff". Your character doesn't need to be a dick or on steroids to be strong. A strong person can be kind and compassionate, just not capitulate under pressure. I also don't believe being "independent" means you can't love someone and lean on them in times of need, it just means you aren't defined by the relationship.

  • Bastila Shan from KOTOR
  • Mustang from Red Rising
  • Rita from Groundhog Day
  • Hermione from Harry Potter (if only JK respected ALL women)
  • Dottie from A League of Their Own
  • Mulan from Mulan
  • Ellie from The Last of Us Part 2
  • Freya from God of War
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Great answer

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