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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

unabke to walk, stand or even talk correctly.

That's me when I am sick, or even slightly tired, lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I was once in a band with 3 guys who chainsmoked. Locked in a shitty practice room in the bass players house with the windows and doors closed for hours at a time twice a week or more.

After a year of this I would get nicotine fits if we didnt practice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Same but with beer (and most alcoholic drinks really)

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I liked my sister's answer when someone offered her cigarettes to try.

"If I don't like it, it will be a shitty experience. If I do like it, that's much worse. There's no way for me to smoke a cigarette and win."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Life is shitty enough without adding a serious addiction in top of it, I'm good, thanks

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean as cliche as this seems to be an an answer, I think the best solution is to not try them in the first place. You can't lose if you never play the game.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah. It's weird that just saying "no" really is the best move. We just shouldn't count on it when teaching kids about substance abuse.

Just like with abstinence-only sex education, basing the entire strategy around just one method of preventing an unwanted outcome is dumb.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Nicotine levels have been increased to compete with vapes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Be me.
Be 12.
With my friend, steal a pack of ciggies from his mum.
Smoke a couple in low ground between two fields, surrounded by Meadow Pipits and Chiffchaffs.

Didn't bother for a fair few years after that. Never really got into it, but enjoyed the acceptable work breaks that came with it for a while. Haven't smoked more than a cigar or two a year for the last 25 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Cigars? Aren't those suuuper stinky?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I never even bothered trying it. Expensive, smelly, bad for your health, it's all downsides.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

Just smoke tomorrow too, see where it goes

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Cuz' they're not pussy's.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

This reminds me of when I tried smoking when I was 18. It did nothing to me and I didn't see the point. So I did not continue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

the only good cigarette is a drunk one

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I actually enjoy a good cigarette, but I still don't understand how folks get addicted. Smoking more than one in a single day always makes me feel like shit. Even just one cigarette and I feel like I need to take a shower. I smoke a cigarette now and then for fun, and couldn't imagine doing more.

I smoke like a pack a year. I keep it in a Ziploc bag in the fridge to keep them fresh. Been doing this for about 19 years...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I actually enjoy a good cigarette, but I still don’t understand how folks get addicted.

Ah. Well perhaps you should read some neuropsychology?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This reduction of addiction is surprising to see here. You can literally replace your scenario with anything, booze, heroin, junk food, whatever and it may be easier to understand. You have already crossed the barrier on enjoyment, so why is it a stretch for you that people might overindulge. I'm sure there are things in your life that you overindulge in.

Our brains and bodies are vastly complex and all of these things have chemicals that alter your brain chemistry, everyone's brain is different and these chemicals affect people differently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm just talking about my own experience. I also enjoy cannabis, almost exclusively via edibles, and consume it most days, but I also find it pretty effortless to take breaks, even significant months-long ones.

I think I just don't have an "addictive personality" or whatever. I enjoy a good vice, but I've never experienced dependency. Even drinking enough to get "drunk", or drinking multiple days in a row feels bad to me, even if I do like an occasional buzz.

Junk food is nasty to me. I eat it like twice a year and always regret it. Never done opiates, but I do understand that they're a whole lot more addictive than other drugs, so I don't think that even if I did understand what that felt like that it would inform me much about nicotine addiction. Given that opiates are downers and nicotine is an upper, I don't know that they are really comparable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

I'm not gonna downvote because I think your experience is valid. That being said, I think it is a little dismissive. Many people in this thread likely have direct issues with specific addictions, and many people likely have been around death or serious harm because of it.

Chemicals like nicotine have a direct addictive effect on your brain, whether or not you personally can overcome that or not doesn't make much of a difference over that fact that it isn't even about personalities or willpower in every case. Nicotine in particular digs very deep, altering brain development, changing the perception of pain, and controlling dopamine levels. Nicotine also has direct effects on the limbic system, and overall effects of the entire nervous system.

This isn't some issue of people being stupid or weak, nicotine is one of the most addictive (chemically) substances known to man, and a common delivery method is to freebase and concentrate it. It is constantly being developed in laboratories to be as addictive as possible, and there is a 1 trillion (and growing) dollar industry that is financially incentivised to get it into your hands.

1 in 8 people in the world smoke or otherwise consume tobacco products, that's almost the same amount of people that drive cars.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

How much time do you spend gaming a day?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Same, except from the pipe for me. A nice high quality tobacco from my favorite pipe really hits the spot sometimes, plus it makes me feel classy as hell.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Same except I just grab some cigarillos from time to time. Some people are just more susceptible to chemical addictions then others, we're probably on the "Not Very Susceptible" end of the spectrum lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Try smoking your first after 4 beers. That'll get you hooked

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That’s the only time I have one, well half of one, a whole cigarette feels like a lot

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

the first cigarette of the morning always feels like that

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