Can we add 'cars with spare tires' to the list?
Having to call a damned tow-truck just to get a flat tire fixed is not a winning move if you're trying to sell how much your car benefits the environment.
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If only they were capable of offering phone stands. No, I don’t need your 4 foot, 500 gigalumen screen, just give me a place to put mine.
Touch screens with a hundred options will become useful when we start traveling between star systems and need to react to things in minutes or even hours at time.
But when you're driving a vehicle that can run into things within milli seconds if you take your eyes off the road .... we're still going to need tactile buttons.
There's a middle ground. Give me a decent-sized [touch]screen for Android Auto with physical HVAC & media controls.
Honda is one automaker that has separate climate controls, and it is a great balance with things that are nice on a screen like navigation. Heck, even though the music is through the touchscreen it still has a volume knob to quickly adjust or turn off no matter what the screen is showing.
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Having a touchscreen to operate your car with is a safety hazard compared to having buttons and knobs.
My Mazda had a nice combination of touch screen which disabled itself when the vehicle was in motion and you could then use the rotary control instead. Was really nice and intuitive with entirely separate AC, heated seats etc controls.
I had a rental Mazda and I have to say, that rotary control is the worst combination of tactile and touch interface I have seen to date. Maybe that gets better after using it for 6 months, but I can more or less memorize touch interface control positions in that same timeframe and without the distraction of figuring out which element the rotary dial highlight moved to this time.
I would rather have had full touch than that monstrosity.
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Ah, the old "How hard do you want it, how hot do you want it and where do you want it?" climate controls.
There were and are the best.
Still have them as paddles and buttons on my 2023 Honda. I don't even need to look down and they work with gloves.
Heating and ac controls on the flatscreen eliminated a bunch of other carmakers from my poasible choices.
Yup yup yup. I'll die before I buy a car with a touchscreen. I'll get my damn motorcycle license first.
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Volkswagen in the 70s and 80s had three horizontal control levers for the heating on the center of the middle panel which you could push with one speedy gesture to the very right, and then the front window would get max heat and max air flow to defrost/to demoist very fast.
Was so intuitive and fast you didn't think about it and never had to take your eyes from the road for. That was peak design in my eyes.
Infiniti has the best center stack of all cars, and that's a hill I am willing to die on. Screens for navigation, radio, and car settings, with physical buttons along the sides for common HVAC, etc controls.
I haven't driven an Infiniti in about 20 years, but I like the fact they stuck with physical controls. I rented a new Peugeot that was 100% touch screen for everything including changing from park to drive. I almost got in a wreck because I had to reverse out of the way of a distracted driver pulling out of a parking spot and the touch screen wouldn't let me go from drive to reverse, i had to click park first. Anyways, I have a whole laundry list of modern smart features that make me feel like I'm fighting my vehicle instead of driving it. I'm not a fan of lane assist and auto off at traffic lights.
Embrace tradition 
Yep. Usually I'm bluffing when I say "I'll die before I buy [a smart TV/a phone with a selfie cam hole punch/a computer running Windows/a console without a disc tray]," but there are real alternatives to buying these death traps. I could stand to lose weight anyway.
I would, if there were any bike lanes in my city.
There are in mine once you're in the city, but there's a river and a freeway between there and here.
I miss biking to work.
That one we can accept modern ebikes.
What cooks my god damn goose isn't the stupid screen I'm going to break one day. It's that they run buses for other systems through the radio so you can't replace it with what you want.
I had a 1988 Pontiac 6000. I took out the radio/tape unit and replaced it with a CD player. My goddam cruise control was disabled after that. They've been running other systems through the radio forever.
I take trips to Tallinn. Beautiful city. I use the car share apps there for convenience. Pick up a car and park wherever. I get to try out many different cars, if only for a while. I hate touch screens. One even was set with brightness to zero and I was unable to change it.
Dials and knobs for everything please.
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Yep, infotainment and HVAC should have different control systems entirely. If your radio dies it should not mean the death of your car completely. And I consider not having access to your government mandated cameras and defrosters a dead vehicle.
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