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[–] [email protected] 12 points 18 hours ago

I think this kind of a good thing.

Those of us with long enough memories will remember a long tail of Mozilla building stuff and abandoning them, quite like Google.

The two that genuinely hurt me were:

  • Firefox OS - honestly great. I still have my Firefox OS phone sitting around in a box somewhere.
  • Mozilla Persona - an authentication service, was great and still better than the existing alternatives

But the reason I think this it is a good thing, is that they're focusing on their core product. For me Firefox is superior in many ways to Chrome, Ad blocking is an immediate example of that. They need to keep Firefox being successful.

Another reason I think this is a good thing is that there must be new people coming to Mozilla and Firefox who don't know the history. And it's great that there are new people like that.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The hell is with all these comments?

Mozilla is far from perfect but god damn the degree of hatred and mirth some people have is entirely disproportionate to anything they've actually done, and completely irrespective of the good they actually do.

It's got the same energy as leftist purity testing, where there is no "net good", only perfection and villains to be spat on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 17 hours ago

I'm, like, yeah, some of the stuff Mozilla has done has been worrying, but I've seen far worse happen to some other open source projects and their corporate branches.

I'm not worried about Mozilla projects' future. If LibreOffice survived corporate calcification, I see no reason why Mozilla projects wouldn't, if the push comes to a shove. But the thing is, in my opinion, push hasn't come to a shove yet. There's red flags at best, which is a cause for concern, but that's it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It almost seems like there's anti Mozilla campaign going on. It's normal to see some critique but all of a sudden there is a huge Mozilla hate push. Call me crazy but it feels organized

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

I've felt this for a while.

When dirty tricks are at play, it's best to resist.

Don't get me wrong, they've made some bad decisions, but the world is a darker place without them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is, I just saw a post trying to demonize Mozilla simply because they had a few job listings for AI and Ad managers and the take away in the post itself was like "I see they have fully pointed the ship towards a future of AI and Ads", like are you serious??? A few job listings is enough to paint the entire future of the company lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

This was my takeaway also. As if Chromium and all It’s derivatives are just going to not use daddy Alphabet’s ai tech.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Google really wants to make sure you can't escape their ad-riddled bullshit when they get rid of Manifest v2

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The enshittification warning signs are going off everywhere, Mozilla is being corrupted before our very eyes. Now is not the time to hand wave it away.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately with Google's antitrust lawsuits, it's quite likely Mozilla will lose the majority of their funding in the near future, since their biggest source of revenue is Google paying them to be default.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Yea, that's not helping keep anything off the enshittification train that's for sure. Desperation is dangerous.

Oh the irony lol

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago

It's absolutely bonkers.

There's so many people here that fight against their own interests by letting perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago

Didn't even know they had one

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not surprised, Mozilla the company has been shit for years and getting worse.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I called it months ago with the whole Russia fiasco and then reiterated with the whole ad company buy out fiasco. Downvoted both times.

Mozilla is on a path of enshittification and from what I see the "safeguards" that were put in place to prevent enshittification of FF are eroding

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

What happened with Russia and Mozilla?

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