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I know it's been getting worse over time, but I could still find what I needed after some digging.

Recently it's been like 10 minutes of adjusting search terms, still getting completely useless or irrelevant results, and me just giving up afterwards. Other search engines seem just as bad.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

HAHAHAHAHAH no. Google Search has gotten so much worse in the last couple of YEARS more like.

The reason behind this is not a bug but a feature. Google wants the trip from search to result to take longer as they can show you more ads that way.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

The internet has gotten worse in general, and it's accelerating.
The vast majority of online content is now AI-generated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I always feel a sense of dissonance (I think that's the right word?) when I see posts like this. Everyone seems to be talking about this, but I haven't noticed a difference. Honestly, when I look up something, what I'm looking for is usually in the first few results. Not really sure how to feel about my experience being so different from others.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you pretty consumercentric, or do you have some niche interests as well? Google is great at basic tasks and delivering product results and promoted content, and if that's what you're usually looking for it probably works great for you. People have trouble these days trying to find the specific stuff. Google used to really excel at this in the past, but now it's buried under pages of promoted content or pages SEO gamed to the top but not being very helpful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

No, I search for niche stuff very often.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Try finding old band photos. Basically impossible

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Google makes money on ads. They make $300-$400 annually per user by displaying ads.

They are motivated to tarpit you in order to show you more ads.

Giving you your results quickly and efficiently costs them revenue.

Use kagi, or another search engine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it sorta built similar to google? I keep switching search engines but Im SOOOOO used to google that its hard for me to adjust. I need something that kinda looks like google, but I can both Customize it more and just isnt google.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

aHHH NAHHH i just tried it. It's everything I want BUT THEY MAKE ME PAY TO SEARCH??! fuck no- I'm not about to fork over cash for a Subscriptions to USE THE INTERNET. Sounds really really nice but I'd much rather not. They aught to have it so you can pay for extra perks but paying JUST to search???? I'm good-

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember Google saying like 2 decades ago that it was actually their goal to get you off of their website as quickly as possible. If you clicked on a link, and then clicked back in less than 30 seconds, then Google would consider that search result to be not what you were looking for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people who said that are long gone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More to it then that. tl;dr The engineers in charge at google were pushed to the side by the ads people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Oh wow. Thanks for the added details

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I use Ecosia instead of Google, but I know that Google recently added a "forums" category to the top of their search. Have you tried that? Hopefully it will help bring back to life independent forums.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The internet has slowly become more and more useless over time since the pandemic. It's fucking impossible to find anything now. Half the time it's like I have better luck doing an lan search on my home network than looking it up on Google and I'm not even very deep into the self hosted everything rabbit hole.

It's like they want us all to be stupid, uninformed and not know how to do anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

reddit has been 10x more useful than google and this fact alone bothers me to high fucking hell because im STILL BANNED.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

As a basic bitch that hasn't gone to page 2 of a google search in years I don't really notice a difference.

The ai answers, related questions, and ad results are not especially helpful but at the end of the day I will find what I'm looking for.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I shed a tear when quoted strings stopped working

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A string is just a collection of characters, in programmer speak. When you use quotation marks in your search to find exactly what you want. If your search was:

dog "fast drive"

Google used to show results that only had both the word "dog" and the joined phrase "fast drive" in the same result. Or tell you there were no results.

Now it feels like Google uses that as a suggestion, giving you "dog" and any combination of "fast drive", "fast driver", "fast driving", or whatever else Google thinks you want, instead of what you asked for. Or if they don't find it, they serve you up whatever they want, with a small message about there being no matching results.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

I didn’t realize. I’m horrified.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

You mean when plused strings stopped? Because that was tragic as hell

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

YEAH WHAT THE FUCK

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago

I wouldn't know I haven't used Google search in about 3 months.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I tried Google again after a few weeks of DDG and gave up on the first search. DDG has some troubles with German but I can work around that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

There are many factors at play here, some of which including:

  • AI content is taking over the Web: with the popularization of LLM tools, there's an increasing number of AI-Generated content across the Web. Even press websites are using them for generating news and opinion articles.
  • Old sites/articles are vanishing from existence: for instance, old blogs and personal web pages, which contained a lot of useful information, are being deleted due to factors such as domain expiration, hosting expiration, insufficient web traffic for the host to keep it online, etc. To make things worse, few of these sites were archived with tools such as Internet Archive and Archive Today, meaning that, when they disappear, they really disappear.
  • Dominance of Reddit-owned contents and the Reddit issues: Reddit doesn't need introductions, most of the questions and content used to come from Reddit posts and comments. Things such as people (understandably) deleting their Reddit accounts make content to disappear as well.
  • SEO bs and marketing spam: Google kept changing "page ranking" algorithms, sorting results according to their own will. "Search Engine Optimization" is a just a facade that led many old sites to practically vanish from search result pages. Advertisement also did harm many sites as well, even the bigger ones.
  • Societal, economical and human changes: there were lots of changes upon society and humans by the last 5 years. These worldly factors also influence the digital landscape.

That said, it depends on what you're searching for. If you're searching for knowledge that used to be at old websites, you can use Marginalia to search this specific type of websites (considering that they're still online).

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