This is interesting. Where do the 100 families in the apartments get their food?
this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2024
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Humans turn food into poop. They don't just sit in an apartment. An apartment is a tool to bring in food and take out poop (and other waste).
You can draw a building like that, but to portray the apartment system correctly, you need to show where the poop goes, and where the food comes from.
Do you think houses don't need those things? I'm confused what you think your point here is.
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The same is also true for the houses. That argument is a wash.
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100 houses:
- sewer lines under each row of houses, joining at the roads, and then emptying into a single pipe that goes into the sea. Lines are low load and low pressure so can get stuck easily depending on weather.
- most homeowners get in their vehicles and drive to the store depending on distance to the store
- 3 homeowners might grow vegetables. Maybe.
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100 apartments:
- single sewer line, high load and high pressure, waste can travel further into the sea
- grocery store on the ground floor of block, next to the kebab shop, apartment owners can take the lift or the stairs.
- 3 apartment owners might grow vegetables. Maybe.
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We all know that soon enough, the center of the island will be filled with cheap appartement blocks, and all the beaches and access to water will be owned by rich people with huge houses.
Had an apartment. Guy's girlfriend upstairs smoked. His apartment caught on fire when she fell asleep smoking in bed. Guess where the water goes when the fire department put out the fire. And that's not just water, it's water mixed with toxic soot. No more apartment.
Neighbour had a garden with trees, guess where the tree fell during a storm? No more single houses... /s
You can litterally find examples for downsides like that of any kind of housing arragements.
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For those complaining about noise in apartments: in my experience apartment dwellers are quite considerate and when living in an apartment I never had any major noise problems.
Now that I live in a single home let me tell you about the noise of neighbours mowing their lawns, constant noisy renovations etc. and in general a lot more car noise.
Quite honestly, it was more quiet in the apartments that I lived before.
Edit: and besides, I think people are confusing apartments with the real cause: housing areas with low socio-economic status tend to be more noisy. Correlation is not causation and all that...
People are down voting you but I've had the same experience. The apartments I've lived in were very quiet. The suburban home I live in now is within earshot of lawn care daily. I literally never leave my land, when I say daily I actually do man daily.
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Renting sucks and relying on a landlord is awful. I bought a small house and keep my yard wild.
Why does renting have to be the automatic assumption? We're simply talking about two different ways to organize living space, not how it's financed. Shit, we should take a page out of Finland's book, and make some actually really good public housing and make it available to everyone.
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Having renting be the default for apartments is part of the problem. It is very normal where I live that a developer build an apartment building and the sells the apartments to individuals who own the living space and co-own and maintain the shared spaces. The developer takes the winnings and never interferes with the building again.
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Only if the apartment has very strict noise and smoking rules that are actually enforced.
Noise separation is pretty easy to design into a building. Air separation is possible but would require design that no one bothers with, as far as I know.
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The real crime is that fucking font. I'd rather just burn down the whole island.
so many people in comments need fucking therapy. idolizing atomization and misanthropy and then wondering why the world has gone to shit. "fuck other people and their children" Andys wondering how fascism is on the rise and why people do mass shootings. it's you. the only difference is you haven't pulled the trigger yet. get help.
get help.
LOL getting help won't make the neighbours any better.
Help I'm trying my best to stop being a fascist but I can still hear my neighbour screaming at his children through the wall
Where does fascism come into it?
I dunno that's what the other guy said
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Because FUCK living that close to other people. Humans fucking suck to be close to and I'd go fucking postal having to deal with that shit.
I hate my neighbors as it is and barely see them. If I could hear their shithead kids screaming and throwing themselves into the walls I'd burn down a city block.
Modem building codes usually have noise separation requirements.
You have to remember that people who advocate for apartments usually aren't trying to make everyone live there, they're just trying to make apartments/condos an option for who those who want them. In much of the US and Canada it's illegal to build medium and high density housing, for essentially no reason beyond aesthetics and racism.
See that's all fine and well. More people should do that. But then you get the people who don't want to live near people, in the middle of a city. The "have your cake and eat it too" kind. And that's just not feasible.
There really is no one-size solution to housing. We need, and all benefit, from having some degree of options, but importantly, those options should be attainable, and all have their costs/drawbacks.
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