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Police opened fire on a subway platform in Brooklyn during a confrontation with an alleged fare-beater, striking the man cops said was armed with a knife, two straphangers caught in the fray, and one of the firing officers, NYPD officials said Sunday.

One of those two passengers hit by the cops' bullets, a 49-year-old man, was hospitalized in critical condition after he was hit struck in the head, according to the NYPD.

The two officers who opened fire were assigned to patrol the Sutter Avenue subway stop in the 73rd precinct when they spotted a man skip the station turnstile and walk through an open gate toward the train platform, Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey explained at an evening press conference from Brookdale Hospital.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

How incompetent do you have to be to shoot a bystander?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When aiming into a crowd of people? You'd have to be an exceptional marksman to hit your target. Of course, there's the question of why you're firing into a crowd to begin with.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

This is obviously fucked up. But they are clearly intentionally downplaying that he pulled a knife when stopped. He wasn't shot for the fair lol

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (19 children)

NYPD goes HARD on toll jumpers, but there's virtually zero enforcement on traffic and cars. Everywhere I go I see assholes with illegally modified vehicles, degenerates speeding down shoulders and medians, motorcycles on crowded sidewalks and pedestrian paths, and too many drunk drivers to count. There are so many cases where one pig parked on the shoulder during rush hour would fund the city budget for a year.

Instead we get whole families of pigs loitering by the turnstiles

[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The NYPD also loves to go after jaywalkers and vagrants, particularly when they're interfering with the flow of street traffic.

Cars are King, baby.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean according to the article, technically they just tried to stop him over the $2.90 fare.

Then because of that he threatened to kill them and they realized he had a knife so they tasered him.

Then when that didn't work and he ran at them with the knife they opened fire.

Multiple people are still dead because they brought guns into a disagreement over $2.90, but the headline implies a lot more unreasonableness on the individual cops' parts as opposed to the overall policy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Then because of that he threatened to kill them and they realized he had a knife so they tasered him.

Then when that didn't work and he ran at them with the knife they opened fire.

Is the version of what's the killers are saying. I'll believe it when I see the camera footage. Good thing they have bodycams, so they can instantly prove their story.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then because of that he threatened to kill them

They claim he made a threat. The article failed to print his side of the story for some curious reason. It isn't printing any testimony from the bystanders, either.

Multiple people are still dead because they brought guns into a disagreement over $2.90, but the headline implies a lot more unreasonableness on the individual cops’ parts as opposed to the overall policy.

Cops will often lie about the danger of a suspect in order to justify elevating their use-of-force. That said, they weren't that concerned by his unreasonableness when they deployed tasers into the crowd first. They didn't switch to guns until they realized the tasers weren't going to work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (8 children)

They claim he made a threat. The article failed to print his side of the story for some curious reason. It isn't printing any testimony from the bystanders, either.

Fair enough, supposedly they were wearing body cams so hopefully some of what actually happened can be answered objectively, I'm just pointing out what the article said. If he didn't make a threat or have a knife, then tasering him is a wild escalation, it's just that if he did, then the police can't really just let him get on a train.

Cops will often lie about the danger of a suspect in order to justify elevating their use-of-force. That said, they weren't that concerned by his unreasonableness when they deployed tasers into the crowd first. They didn't switch to guns until they realized the tasers weren't going to work.

Again, assuming what the article says is true, which is a big assumption, it's not that crazy to taser a guy who just got onto a train with a knife and threatened to you. At that point you're looking at a potential mass stabbing incident if you do nothing.

Again, who knows, maybe the cops are blowing his behaviour wildly out of proportion, I'm just saying that, based on the article, it sounds like he wasn't just gunned down for jumping a turnstile.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (17 children)

Why hasn't the city released the full body cam footage?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

At least it was underground, limiting how many people were in the line of fire, every few years they open fire at someone on a major avenue in Manhattan in a crowd. Good times. I'm so glad the democratic party destroyed Scott Stringer by bribing his ex-gf to falsely accuse him of being a sex pest to ensure the DNC's man, Eric Adams, the biggest shithead to ever come out of the NYPD, could become mayor-king of NYC, guaranteeing Guiliani-level daily police misconduct with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (9 children)

They used more money in ammunition than the amount of money the shootout started over!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Evidence of why the "Chris Rock solves gun crime" strategy won't work.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope the cop that got shot is hurting. Stupid fucks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Definitely sitting at home, getting paid leave and talking to his union provided lawyer and was told not to say anything by his coworkers who didn't arrest him for shooting multiple people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Meanwhile corporations steal billions through white collar crime and the police do nothing. Nearly all blue collar crime is due to poverty and white collar crime creates more poverty. If police really wanted to stop crime they'd be pouring over corporations accounting to find the stolen money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If police really wanted to stop crime they’d be pouring over corporations accounting to find the stolen money.

Sounds like dirty authoritarian big government communism to me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Another mass shooting

[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago

Schrodingers pig.

The cop shot an innocent bystander in the head but also shot another cop. Until trial, he is both a bad guy with a gun and a good guy with a gun.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Are the NYPD still carrying guns with a 12 pound trigger pull? Why can't they aim for shit?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How much would this criminal get away with?

Roughly $3.00.

The only message I got was cops are unhinged.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

hit struck in the head

No; not hit struck. That's like TWICE!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The police didn't shoot him in the head. They were just doing their jobs as we asked them to and somehow that happened, total coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“We will be working through the timeline of today, but make no mistake, the events that occurred on the Sutter Avenue station platform are the results of an armed perpetrator who was confronted by our officers doing the job we asked them to do," Donlon said.

Could we maybe not ask police officers to escalate minor and petty conflicts all the way up to shooting everyone in the immediate vicinity?

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