Id tell them about the Great Switch but they can't read.
What's the 'please keep quiet'?
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This is aimed at “libruhls”.
For those out of the loop, the parties largely switched when LBJ a Democrat signed the Civil Rights Act into law. All of the Jim Crow south, which had been run by the Democrats that caused the Civil War, Switched to the Republican Party, because of their racist beliefs.
This is one of those things that will elicit foaming of the mouth from tankies but I’ve never quite figured out why. I suspect it may be that they have their own special meaning with the words liberal and conservative.
No it wont lol, I'm a tankie and I wrote it. The word Liberal and Conservative do not have a special meaning to tankies, they just realize that Democrats and Republicans are both Neoliberal at heart and exist to protect the horde's of wealth accumulated by the owning class. The Democrats are just less sociopathic about it.
I somehow keep getting bamboozled into learning about US history or politics while I sit on the toilet and I don't know how to feel about it.
Not only that, the Republican Party specifically tried to win the racist vote with the Southern Strategy rather than just let them go unrepresented and die out as a political bloc.
Now their claiming the switch is a myth
I know you got the "they're" wrong, but oddly your sentence half works. Although it suggests that they have been wrongly accused of suggesting "the switch" exists
Grammar is more and more important in a typed world
If you understand me, it’s good enough. I prefer to be able to communicate in the 4 (nearly 5) languages I currently can, than to perfect a single one.
Why do hate groups vote for Republicans? Curious? * face shrinks*
One party was REALLY upset when we tried to take down Confederate statues.
Yup, sure was!
It's the history books that give the best fire for self burning.
Buddy called party switch
Yeah if we had another Teddy Roosevelt then I'd be a Republican. How does a political party go from trust busting, and environmental conservation to the oil funded corporate shit show it is now?
Money
The parties swapped political orientations in the 1930's-60's. Before the 30's, the progressives were called Republicans and the conservatives were called Democrats.
So, under Teddy, the Republican Party was the progressive party. No gymnastics needed.
A channel called Knowing Better has a pretty good video on this. Don't yell at me for the youtube link.
https://youtu.be/MwuFIJlY7fU?si=_PDUoWuk54eVzAme
https://nebula.tv/videos/knowing-better-political-ships-of-theseus-the-party-switch/
1: He's Canadian.
2: Wonder why he didn't list the Civil Rights Act. Or anything after 1870.
3: Pretty sure these numbers are fake.
The numbers are close-ish to correct if you are looking only at House/Senate voting. They still needed to be ratified by 3/4ths of states and these numbers clearly ignore what the voting results in each state was. They also did not have 100% Republican support, but close. Democrat support of 0% for the 14th and 15th amendments appears to be accurate.
Also worth mentioning that all 3 of those amendments passed in just 6 years. It's a very specific moment in history.
Okay now do this with maps and you can see what states votes voted for what.
Allow me to introduce you to a man of great change.
If nixon Wouldn't have don'e Watergate or the racist shit or privatization of health care he could have been remembered as a great president.
Or the war on drugs, not doing that would've been pretty good.
Fuck, you're right. It was the Republicans that were all fighting for Emancipation, and equality and human dignity for all men of every race and creed all the way back to the era of Abraham Lincoln... huh... So.... How we feeling about Confederate monuments and flags, modern GOP? Black lives and incarceration rates? Civil rights for all? Religious tolerance? Immigration? Yeaaa... thought so. Shut the fuck up, you dumb motherfuckers.
Conservatives have always been the bad guys in the usa. Parties don't matter
Just in the USA..?
There is a place for actual conservatives, people who want to change things slowly and make sure we aren't breaking shit with our changes.
But what calls themselves conservatives these days would be more accurately referred to as reactionaries, who want to reverse many changes that have been made and go back to some old time they preferred.
I am not sure if the relabeling of reactionaries into conservatives was always a global phenomenon, I think in many countries, at least until recently, conservatives were really just conservative and not reactionary. But I can't say for sure.
I'd just call them regressives
The only conservatives which I give some healthy degree of respect are the European and maybe Japanese conservatives. I can't comment on conservatives from other places as I don't know much about them, but the American conservatives are bat shit insane. There are far and few sane American conservatives are drowned by loud crazy ones.
If you want to find out if someone is a conservative or a reactionary, ask about environment. Someone who's into conserving things will want to conserve nature as well
A good reminder to support ideas and policies, not parties.