Trump knows what NATO is. This is rhetoric for his voters.
this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2024
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Stop applying Hanlon's Razor to Trump.
It's fucking malice.
How do people not see this as being directed by Putin? Russia is literally the only beneficiary of this "stupidity".
It's a NYTimes article. As much stupid shit as Trump has said, he was right about the NYT. And that's why they have all these very shareable articles exploring every nook and cranny of his psyche. This article would have been exhausting to read in 2017.
The funny thing is, Russia would never actually strike NATO. I don't know what the fuck State or JCS are letting him get away with while DOJ jacks off with reports about the incumbent's mental health, but Trump needs to be gagged and thrown into solitary yesterday.
Is that a new brand of wood chipper?
For the GOP voters? 50+ yrs of highly concentrated, and pointed propaganda.
For the nonvoters? Bc their favorite social media sites (this one included) are full of russian bad faith actors working to make Status Quo Joe seem somehow worse, or, at the very least, more ineffectual, than ronald mcdump.
Just saw a fella here the other day absolutely screeching and livid that Joe "hasn't done anything for Flint." I mean, neither did Donald and also Donald hamstrung the EPA as best he could to make things worse all over the nation.
The dishonesty is so overt. That guy didn't respond to anything, either, so no updates if he is concerned for the EPA or not.
Its all performative. Theres no shortage of 20something yr old leftist idealists that are ripe for the brainwashing. Just discovered The Dunk Tank, which i guess is more of the same.
24 year old leftist redneck the fuck is the dunk tank, is that some tankie shit im too Non Credible Defense pilled to understand.
It’s hexbear so yes, tankie shit. They screen grab themselves “dunking” on “liberals”!
Fair enough, didnt realize it was hexbear. Sounded like a podcast or something like that.
It certainly has the exact structure of all the other Russian agitation material, designed to breed resentment.
I can imagine the typical low-information voter: "What? They think we're required to fight for them? And they refuse to do their share at the same time? Oh the entitlement!" - bam - anger against EU, happy about Trump supposedly calling them out, may even support leaving NATO.
True, but EU countries not contributing to mutual defense also helps Putin. Both are bad. Some EU countries are finally adding some defense spending now there's a literal war on their continent.
The lack of defense spending in Europe is pushed by European political parties partially supported by Russia. So basically, Putin has created the problem that he told Trump to yell about.
And then he invaded Ukraine and most of those countries found their wallets quick!
That this point I think he thinks that NATO is what you call TiVo, and that TiVo is still a thing.
something about the Soviet Union right?
Ostensibly? I'm pretty sure he was president for four years. Does anybody protest that?
He was president for 4 years and treated it like retirement. Even if it was explained to him exactly what NATO was several times, I doubt he paid attention or cared enough to retain the information.
Putin doesn't like NATO and that's all he needs to know about it.
Define President
It's a bit weird hearing people make a huge fuss over Trump not taking the Russian threat seriously while they themselves are refusing to spend even just the minimum they've already agreed to spend on defence. Especially if we're looking at the potential of the US being an unreliable partner, shouldn't we be putting a lot more effort into shoring things up here at home? (Canadian)
Yes, we definitely should, but you won't find a party on any side of the spectrum that will run on that.
Which is among the reasons that people are losing faith in government, and why Trump is capable of capitalizing on the issue.
Shoresy?
The guy currently on trial for racketeering is asking people for protection money or something bad will happen to them? Who would have thought!
Dude's a mob boss, everyone around him has taken the fall and he's still there. That's insane.
The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, And Hells Angels lied to me. I thought mob bosses were intelligent, charismatic, and capable of playing 4d chess. Meanwhile...
Because he's not the real mob boss, he's the useful idiot for the people using him (first Mafia, now Putin).
What is insane is that people are still taking the fall for him. When it's pretty clear Donnie cares only for himself. Everyone has convinced themself that they're special. No, they're not. Everyone is a stooge to Donnie.
Also "you have to pay your bills, unlike me who literally NEVER pays ANY bills." I mean, if there is one consistent element in Trump's character for the decades he's doing business is that he's constantly stiffing people.
Worked with a batshit crazy old lady in the quality department for about a year. She was stuck there (both job and location) while she cared for her very elderly mother. Before that she had something to do with finance, fashion and F1 racing (like a client liaison or something) but any way. She recalled a tale from late 80s early 90s of being in a very specific bank (Royal back of Scotland?) and watching Mr Trump storm out after being denied a loan. The utter bliss she experienced in telling that story every ting i asked to hear it again... Brought happiness to my heart.
I miss you Marylin you batshit crazy old lady.
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