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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Remember when Sony laid off a ton of Bungie employees? Talk about a series of bad decisions.

At least they're giving refunds.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oof. Pivoting to free to play then, or at least a PSPlus relaunch.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Will the industry learn any lesson from this?

(no)

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wonder why they didn't make it free-to-play and try to cash in on microtransactions

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's presumably why it's going offline and everyone getting refunds

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

It's a non zero amount of work, and there's every chance they spend more money making that change than they would bring in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can't help but wonder if this would have been a hit if it was F2P rather?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Game Preservationists When a Game Sucks:

"Good I'm glad it's gone."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Eh, there is no such thing as preserving a live service game. Lots of OW1 copies on disc that are coasters now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Concord doesn't see a F2P re-release, it will DEFINITELY be some highly-sought cultural relic in the future

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

One of these days, it's going to teach them to stop making games designed to destroy themselves. Preservation needs to be good for business, and the lack of it needs to be bad for business.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Jesus christ

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"Refunds for PlayStation Store and PlayStation Direct purchases may take 30-60 days to appear on your bank statement"

Why do companies do this? They can process millions of dollars of incoming payments instantly, but take up to 2 months to reverse? Give me a break.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

The company I work for does B2B and clients do the same shit. 45-90 day pay cycle after invoicing. That shit kills smaller businesses.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Bank transfers are slow. It is generally taken out of the account the next business day, sits in escrow for a few days, then appears in the destination account where it takes another day to clear. About a week total.

Though, if it gets held for suspected fraud or needs to cross international boundaries, it can sit in that escrow account for much longer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

In the EU we use SEPA and transfers are instantaneous. Used it when buying something of our local ebay when at the person's house. Also most banks even have Venmo style payment systems.. scan qr of your bank, click on my banks icon, authorize, done.

Companies sit on cash simply for cashflow reasons. Keeping the money in your account for an additional x days means it can be used for other stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Sounds like I should start holding my payments in escrow, just in case the publisher decides to shut down their game less than 2 weeks after taking my money. Got it!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wow, I expected they'll go straight to free-to-play but I guess the game has such a bad reputation that they decided to take it down completely. Refunds being issued is awfully nice though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Free-to-play is often a lazy comment from social media that represents an incomplete business plan. Developers have to get paid, and you need a plan for how players will be pushed into that.

The assumption is often on a vague “skins and charms” type of thing but it depends on whether the game was built for that expectation. They likely knew they wouldn’t be putting out compelling reskins of their characters.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, ain't no monetizing scheme is gonna save this one. There's just too much bad rep.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, ain't no monetizing scheme is gonna save this one.

This is the key marketing fail. They released an OW clone, and then failed to highlight the differences. I might have thrown $40 at it, if I’d known that there wasn’t going to be a battlepass or something equally asinine to come with that price tag.

I played through their free weekend beta some time in July and didn’t hate it, but it was clunky and the designs were uglier than OW. That said, I had expected them to clean it up before release; anything except let it stand with its overarching veneer of greyige+olive green over every character.

I think they just released it to say it was released and be able to do the write-offs. Otherwise, any game that had been in development this long would have seen a huge marketing campaign that highlighted why players should abandon OW, et al for Concord instead.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

There's just too much bad rep.

On the one hand, that's not a bet I'd take since No Man's Sky exists.

On the other hand, NMS is definitely the exception, not the rule.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I assume, NMS made money from their launch, despite it being so underwhelming, and that's what they used to patch up the game.

Concord seems to have made essentially no money...

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remove from sale. Add more monetisation features. Rerelease as F2P. Cross fingers and hope for best.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

The Multiversus approach!

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