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"The SCOPE Act takes effect this Sunday, Sept. 1, and will require everyone to verify their age for social media."

So how does this work with Lemmy? Is anyone in Texas just banned, is there some sort of third party ID service lined up...for every instance, lol.

But seriously, how does Lemmy (or the fediverse as a whole) comply? Is there some way it just doesn't need to?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Don't comply with tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I expect the usage of VPNs in Texas to skyrocket exponentially in the next couple of months.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Don't think so

I'm petty sure everyone already started using VPNs when Pornhub was banned

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Social media is probably a very poorly or very narrowly defined term. Either they called out Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, etc by name or they gave some broad description of social media that could apply to everything from Facebook all the way down to somebody's Vbulletin forum and this will be unenforceable for the vast majority of websites. Compliance is likely voluntary for the little fish in social media. I imagine that they aren't even aware that Lemmy exists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Comply?

"Is there some way it just doesn't need to" = "Is there some scenario in which Texas laws don't apply worldwide?"

Yes. There is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To expand on this- In general you must comply with the laws of any jurisdiction where you have a business presence. This for example Meta is a USA company, but they have offices in the EU and they sell advertising in the EU from EU offices so they have to comply with EU laws for EU users. They can't just wave off and say 'we are a USA company, EU regs don't apply to us'.

Lemmy is not a corporation. There is no business presence in Texas, unless an instance admin lives there or hosts the server there. So Lemmy, both as a whole and as individual instances, can simply give Texas the middle finger and say 'we aren't subject to your laws as we have no presence or business in your state. We are in the state of California (or whatever) and are subject to the laws of our home state. It is not our job to enforce Texas laws in California on servers hosted in Virginia.'

Thus Texas trying to enforce their laws on a Cali company is like Hollywood studios sending DMCA notices to Finland.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Thus Texas trying to enforce their laws on a Cali company is like Hollywood studios sending DMCA notices to Finland.

My point exactly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Good luck Texans. Nordman will heed your call

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

I'm fine with Texas disappearing from the internet. Literally every site with a comment section now has to comply or just block Texas. One of those seems more feasible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Texas is slowly turning into Afghanistan

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Not so slowly. 20 years ago it was a battleground state.

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