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Murdered by Words

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I'm continuously confused about why they think they are free, or at least uniquely free? What does the moon even have to do with that supposed freedom?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It makes me sad because one of the aspects of my country of which I am actually extremely proud is the fact that we landed people on the fucking moon. It's sad because this feat was accomplished by a bunch of really smart, educated people with a solid grounding in science (and TBF a few literal nazis here and there) not by a bunch of inbred dumbfucks who think driving around with a big flag sticking out of their enormous pickup truck is somehow making a contribution to America's greatness - and whose whole existence is fundamentally built around rejecting science and education and being smart.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

To conservative Americans the word "freedom" doesn't mean the same thing that it means to you and I. That's the simple short explanation for your confusion. It would require a much longer discussion to really unpack why that is and how it intersects with ideology.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If Americans knew how good life can be then they wouldn’t settle for such a shitty country. So from birth they are lied to about having good lives

It’s not even healthcare, imagine the poorest country you can and there are places like that there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a big part of our culture, it's even in our theme song

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

And the Rockets' red glare, the Bombs bursting in air,

Gave proof through the night that our Flag was still there;

Yep, accurate.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Propaganda

What they said is a line from a song we are made to sing as children. They don't really teach us about life in other countries, we have to do that ourselves if we happen to be curious.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You were made to sing that song? Gross!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Yep. From kindergarten to 6th grade we had to sing that along with a myriad of other similar songs. By the time I was around 13 I started to realize how weird it is and I began questioning everything I had ever been taught. Growing up, my parents made me go to a Catholic school every Wednesday evening so I had been taught lots of incorrect and distorted information. Eventually I began skipping class and I would walk around town and do whatever and that is the first time I actually felt free.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's normal for young children to have a music class, usually this is primarily a 'fun' class and includes a lot of chorus singing.

This was one of the songs sung in the class when I was a kid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Propaganda plus having the intellectual capacity of a middle schooler while being assumed to be a reasonable person

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're just getting defensive because someone dared to criticize the U.S., that's all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Stop it or they'll start chanting their country initialism again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

I don't think they're trying to make a logically rigorous argument

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I bet someone’s gonna be pissed when they find out

https://i.imgur.com/BFljhn7.jpg

edit: on their 3rd mission

Two previous Chinese lunar missions had flags on the crafts' coatings - so neither could be affixed to the moon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why would we care about someone else getting our sloppy seconds?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Cause if planting a flag on the moon somehow relates to being a free country, then China would be considered free as well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, this image has been reposted around since before 2020

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

well now they can stfu

edit: meaning the ‘Murican that originally said that, not meme sharers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The sun has bleached any color off that moon flag.

Which means it's French.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's probably black not white at this point, not because of bleaching, which did happen, just cause of decay. At least that's what PBS Spacetime told me

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

So pirates then?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Durka? Ooooooh. Not durka. Surrender flag.