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Murdered by Words
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I'm continuously confused about why they think they are free, or at least uniquely free? What does the moon even have to do with that supposed freedom?
It makes me sad because one of the aspects of my country of which I am actually extremely proud is the fact that we landed people on the fucking moon. It's sad because this feat was accomplished by a bunch of really smart, educated people with a solid grounding in science (and TBF a few literal nazis here and there) not by a bunch of inbred dumbfucks who think driving around with a big flag sticking out of their enormous pickup truck is somehow making a contribution to America's greatness - and whose whole existence is fundamentally built around rejecting science and education and being smart.
To conservative Americans the word "freedom" doesn't mean the same thing that it means to you and I. That's the simple short explanation for your confusion. It would require a much longer discussion to really unpack why that is and how it intersects with ideology.
If Americans knew how good life can be then they wouldn’t settle for such a shitty country. So from birth they are lied to about having good lives
It’s not even healthcare, imagine the poorest country you can and there are places like that there
It's a big part of our culture, it's even in our theme song
Yep, accurate.
Propaganda
What they said is a line from a song we are made to sing as children. They don't really teach us about life in other countries, we have to do that ourselves if we happen to be curious.
You were made to sing that song? Gross!
Yep. From kindergarten to 6th grade we had to sing that along with a myriad of other similar songs. By the time I was around 13 I started to realize how weird it is and I began questioning everything I had ever been taught. Growing up, my parents made me go to a Catholic school every Wednesday evening so I had been taught lots of incorrect and distorted information. Eventually I began skipping class and I would walk around town and do whatever and that is the first time I actually felt free.
It's normal for young children to have a music class, usually this is primarily a 'fun' class and includes a lot of chorus singing.
This was one of the songs sung in the class when I was a kid.
Propaganda plus having the intellectual capacity of a middle schooler while being assumed to be a reasonable person
They're just getting defensive because someone dared to criticize the U.S., that's all.
Stop it or they'll start chanting their country initialism again.
I don't think they're trying to make a logically rigorous argument