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Fyi: it's called post secondary because, I think, UK calls it primary, secondary, and after that is post secondary.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

In Denmark it's called Grade 0. 4-5 Grade 1-10. 6-15 Gymnasium (not sure why?) 15-18

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

US. In my dialect, all three are different.

Middle school: 6-8

Intermediate school: 7-8

Jr High: 7-9

I attended an intermediate school that called itself a jr high, so I can understand the confusion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

For my state in Australia its

Kinder Ages 3-5
Prep Ages 5-6
Primary School Ages 6-12, called Grade 1-6
Secondary/High School Ages 12-18, Called Years 7-12

After that you've got higher education choices via TAFE or University, theres no cut off ages for that.

School is mandatory from ages 6 To 17.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

In the US, the names vary a lot by location. Even which grades are included can change based on the local population and how they choose to organize it. My wife and I went to school in the same state, maybe 45 minutes apart, and we did not have the same names or grade delineations.

For me, pre-school and kindergarten are each there own thing. Grades 1-3 were “elementary school”, 4-6 were “middle school”, 7-8 were “junior high”, and 9-12 were “high school”. We called them this based on the actual names of the school buildings. But even by the time I was in junior high, they started moving the 4th grade classes to the elementary school, so I’d assume kids in my own home town might say 1-4 is “elementary”. We didn’t have a “junior high” building. Grades 7 and 8 were still part of the “middle school”, but based on the changes in curriculum and the fact that they were held on a designated side of the building, it was colloquially referred to as “junior high”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Slovakia.

If I am to translate it word-to-word:
Základná škola - Base school (so primary) (9 years) - split into 1st degree (1-4) and 2nd degree (5-9).
Stredná škola - Middle school (2-5 years based on field of study, 4 and 5 year fields are with graduation)

Get ready for a twist: Gymnasium (8 or 4 years) - 8 year gymnasium starts after 5th grade of primary school and 4 year after 9th grade. They also replace middle school. It's not that popular since you basically won't get any job without college with gymnasium. It's really just a preparation for college (literally "high school" (Vysoká škola)) (though perhaps better than middle school).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US. We have kindergarten (start at age 6) followed by grades 1 through 12. How they are divided depends on where you live. Here are three examples I have seen:

K-8: Primary school
9-12: Secondary school or High school

K-5: Elementary school or Grade school
6-8: Middle school
9-12: High school

K-6: Elementary school or Grade school
7-9: Junior high school
10-12: High school

Anything beyond 12th grade is "post-secondary."

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

In Brazil the names changed quite a bit across the years. I believe that the current ones are

  • fundamental - 9 years (6yo to 14yo)
  • médio (middle) - 3 years (15yo to 17yo)
  • superior / universitário (universitarian) - typically 4~5 years, but it varies

The first two used to be called primeiro grau (first grade), segundo grau (second grade). And even further back, the primeiro grau was actually two, primário (primary - 4y, from 7yo to 10yo) and ginasial (gymnasial - 4y, from 11yo to 14yo).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

both 1) or 2) are common in the American Midwest but also primary school or grade school for that first stage

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From (the French-speaking part of) Belgium, 6 years of primary and 6 years of secondary. Nothing inbetween as that's already 12 years. Secondary usually happens within the same school although there are two divisions within it:
- programs are designed for three cycles ("degrés") of two years (D1, D2, D3)
- teacher's diploma follow a division in two "degrés" of three years : teachers for the inferior one (DI) have a bachelor and teachers for the superior one have a master. In the near future the diploma's will change but the distiction is mostly going to stay

In this latter sense, "inferior secondary" would be the equivalent to middle school and "superior secondary" the one for high school, although as I have explained it is not as separated as in the US, Italy, France or others. As someone who teach in the superior secondary "degré", I do usually introduce myself as a high-school teacher when talking to people from other countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Following the title, I forgot the little ones, so in total we have
- 3 to 4 years of maternal school (2,5 - 6 years old). Traditionnally only the last one was mandatory but this is currently changing so I don't know whether or not the whole of it is already mandatory for everyone
- 6 years of primary school (6-12 years old)
- 6 years of secondary school (12-18 years old)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Virginia, USA in the 1980s it was:

K-5 Elementary

6-7 Intermediate

8 was just called 8th grade building or maybe junior high

9-12 High School

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Romania. We call it primary (1-4), gymnasium (5-8) and lyceum (9-12). They come from French/Latin.

Latin is one of the roots of our language and we underwent a big pro-Latin cultural movement in the 19th century, while French also had a big cultural and educational influence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Gymnasium and lyceum are both Greek. They did pass through Latin on their way into modern use. Lyceum was the name of Aristotle's school in Athens.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US.

Middle School and Jr. High vary depending on how the grades break.

When I was coming up it was this:

Grade School: 1-6
Jr. High - 7-9
High School - 10-12

But when I hit 9th grade, they changed it:

Grade School: 1-5
Middle School: 6-8
High School: 9-12

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Grade school, didn't even know that one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Netherlands:

0.5: Kindergarten - ages 4 and 5
1: Basisschool Onderbouw (elementary part one) - ages 6, 7 and 8.
1.5: Basisschool Bovenbouw (elementary part one) - ages 9, 10, 11, sometimes 12.
2. Middelbare school (High school) - Ages 12 - 16/17/18 depending on what level of education you're going for.

0.5-1.5 is because they are usually all in the same school.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Canada (Ontario)

  • preschool
  • junior kindergarten, senior kindergarten, grades 1-6 | elementary school
  • grades 7-8 | middle school (or also elementary if the school is K-8)
  • grades 9-12 | high school
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

US. I had Elementary kindergarten-4th (5-10). Middle school was 5th-7th (/10/11-12/13). Junior high was 8th-9th(13/14-15). High school was 10th-12th (15/16-18/19).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

4? What part of the US are you in? Is that common?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That was Arkansas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

From the US, there was some experimental stuff going on when I was in school and I was out in the boonies so k-8 schools with self contained classrooms was the norm and they were called elementary schools. I did kindergarten and first grade normally then there was a change and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd grades were combined into the same classroom and called primary school. I was in primary school for what would have been 2nd and 3rd grade. 4th through 8th were the normal self contained classrooms in elementary school.

I was in the last class for my elementary school then they combined it with another school that was k-6 and opened a jr highschool that was 7th and 8th. So I didn't go to a jr high or a secondary school but if I were a year younger I would have gone to a jr high. I did go to a primary, an elementary, and a high school.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sweden, none of the above since we are not English native speakers. 😬

Grundskolan (mandatory for 6-15 year olds). Gymnasiet (optional for 16-19 year olds).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Roughly what percentage of people go on to Gymnasiet? Is the next step University of some sort?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Basically everybody attends gymnasiet. Some programs are focused on preparing for higher studies, such as University, other programs at focused on a trade. All programs have a minimum core curriculum of math, Swedish, English etc.

Yes, the next step is University (or some other kind of higher education), or not, if higher education is not your thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Uk.
Its primary school then secondary school.
Primary school is 6 years "full time" (5/6 years old to 11/12 years old). There are pre-school and "reception" years.
Secondary school is 5 years, with an optional extra 2 years.
Anything beyond secondary school is uni/college/apprenticeship/life

I found secondary school year 6/7 to cover the majority of the foundation of 2 years at Uni (ie, maths, physics, chemistry had a huge amount of repitition before building on it and specialising).

Heres more info:
https://cdn.roostermarketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/school-years-1.png

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

My part of the country "pre-school" is called play school. Not sure if that is a national thing though.

I've also never heard this post secondary thing OP is on about.

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